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Kerostasis · 12-14-2007, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Embiggener

...it was the 30 yechurch that condemned Galileo's work as heretical.

What? Huh? Come again?

**El_Gringo_Grande** · 12-14-2007, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sordavie

That's just my take on the issue. I'm inclined to think the distinction between science and nonscience is pretty arbitrary. This generalizes: the distinction between academic fields is pretty arbitrary. That's not to say there are no distinctions. But, how finely grained we want to make distinctions and then place a label on them is arbitrary. In the end, this may undermine what I said in the paragraph above, since the distinction between a scientific and a nonscientific argument is also arbitrary. But, it is interesting that some versions of the teleological argument do make use of clearly scientific results--results that scientists have figured out by doing science and results that scientists primarily agree with.

There is a practical part of what makes science I think. And I think it is the practical part that is most important.

The practical part is that it creates a set of rules in which a competition can take place to determine the best explanation for observable phenomena.

That is probably why the falsifiable thing is so important to many involved in science. If you can't prove that another's explanation wrong then it is awfully hard to compete.

ID introduces a "designer" that is "intelligent". So what ever this designer decided to do can't really be questioned. Especially since the designer has played a large part in creating the universe. How are you going to question that?

"Dude, you screwed up so bad on the platypus! That is just wrong!"?

It just doesn't work. Those that support ID can, at any time, take an out and just say "it is what the designer wanted" and the argument stops there. Of course another can say "No. The designer did this." And neither side has to explain anything beyond that and competition comes to a deadlock. Not good for advancement.

The best that could be hoped for is every body agree on what the designer did but then you again get stagnation of knowledge advancement.

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