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Old 12-11-2007, 11:49 AM   #16 (permalink)
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A question of me being very confused about that. Its not an accusation or anything. I'm just curious. What does a 19-year-old high school grad do for a living in a war-zone, when they aren't joining the military?
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Old 12-11-2007, 12:22 PM   #17 (permalink)
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A question of me being very confused about that. Its not an accusation or anything. I'm just curious. What does a 19-year-old high school grad do for a living in a war-zone, when they aren't joining the military?
Painter? Plumber? Who knows? Haliburton does everything, though...
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Old 12-11-2007, 12:35 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Not saying it couldn't happen, but it could very well be someone looking to make some bucks from a possible lawsuit. I don't trust the drive-by media. Remember the Duke Lacrosse team? Those poor guys got raked over the coals, their reputations ruined, non-stop media coverage, and it ended up being bogus.
Here's one thing the accuser in the Duke case didn't do: start a sexual assault assistance foundation.

The point of course being that it doesn't exactly sound consistent with someone who's lying or trying to bilk KBR out of some easy cash, now does it? Prominent rape case + media attention does not equal the same circumstances.

As for what she was doing over there, nobody contests that she worked for KBR. KBR specializes in logistical support (i.e. food service, barracks/facilities construction, etc.). They have 50,000 employees (of over 100,000 contractors total) in Iraq. I assume their minimum age requirement is 18.

Rince hit the real issue right on the head: the absurdity of mandatory arbitration for this case. How a contract that stipulates that sexual assault must be handled by mandatory arbitration is valid is beyond me.

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Old 12-11-2007, 12:45 PM   #19 (permalink)
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A question of me being very confused about that. Its not an accusation or anything. I'm just curious. What does a 19-year-old high school grad do for a living in a war-zone, when they aren't joining the military?
Money. Most companies pay a **** load to go to war-zones to do work. My local plumbing union had jobs available in Afghanistan which paid about five times the normal salary, plus expenses, plus travel, plus some special "incase you die" cash. A very, very, nice chunk of money for one months work (although no one took the job because it was in the beginning of 2002 when it was bad over there).
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Old 12-11-2007, 12:58 PM   #20 (permalink)
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This whole story is just so bizarre that, while it certainly could be true, I'd just like to have a little bit of evidence before I start accusing companies of evil intent. I mean, how often is the primary evidence in a case entrusted to the accused for safekeeping? That's just surreal.
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Old 12-11-2007, 04:25 PM   #23 (permalink)
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The binding arbitration has ZERO to do with criminal activity. Nobody will be going to trial because no US court has jurisdiction, not because of some contractual obligation these parties have with each other. Johnny Law doesn't give a rat's ass about my contracts. I can't steal my boss's car and then demand arbitration instead of jail.

Binding arbitration is concerned with civil procedures. And, like most contracts, "binding" means binding.
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Old 12-11-2007, 07:11 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Clearly, after just glancing at her photo, she's into "Role-Play" and is clearly a freak. At my workplace, I get raped all the time (figuratively, of course).

Regarding the age thing, a college roommate of mine was hired by Halliburton when he was 19, he hadn't even finished he Bachelors in engineering and they picked him up, so this doesn't surprise me.

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Come on. They're fighting globalmegacorp. She doesn't have a chance of getting this to a criminal trial because of the dubious binding arbitration clause (the constitutionality of being able to sign your rights to a trial by a jury of your peers is debate for another thread.. or maybe this one).

This (binding arbitration) is a gross miscarriage of justice and I'm surprised only a few of us see that. The actual crime that globalmegacorp is accused of covering-up/accommodating/participating in is moot for me (in this case it's accused of facilitating and covering up gang rape). The real crime is that there will be no criminal charges and no trial.
QFT, Amen to that. My view on careers and jobs is the fact that the Employer isn't doing you a favor by giving you a paycheck, you are doing THEM a favor with your expertise. If someone shoves something in your face and it smells nothing but pig's ass, refuse to do it, or quit your job - I know that might be easier said than done and you may sacrifice a little money in the meantime, but if people follow that kind of philosophy, we wouldn't have people taken advantage of.

On a final note: Money Talks - when greed is more important than living comfortably and humbly, mankind becomes more material and superficial. Here is a rhetorical question for everyone: Why would this young lady want to be in Iraq in the first place if she could probably do a similar job in an area (for Haliburton or otherwise) near her home? I think you know my answer to that.
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...I wouldn't be surprised if Henry Waxman, et. al., find another forum for discussing this matter and hauling these alleged rapists into a Congressional hearing to get their faces on cameras everywhere.
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