Zeitgeist, The Movie? - Page 3

**CingularDuality** · 10-11-2007, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Gillespie

The "border" that separates Mexico and the United States can't even keep simple illegal immigrants out, nevermind drugs and whatever else. And that's even with Border Patrol and National Guard units guarding the damned thing.

I'd like to point out that even if we had all the Border Patrol Agents working 24/7 with no time to eat, sleep or do anything else but patrol the border, they would each have to cover 1.9 miles of border with only a fourth of them having a vehicle. Reality has them working in shifts and often with partners and there are plenty of support positions and then there's the paperwork. So, tell me, with only 11,000 Border Patrol Agents, it's no surprise that so many criminals are coming across our border.

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Don't even get me started on that retarded goddamn "wall" they want to build. Jesus Christ... does anyone up at the top realize the Soviet Union did the same damned thing to East Berlin?

You don't think there's a huge difference between a wall to keep your own people in, and a wall to keep criminals out of your country?

Morganan · 10-11-2007, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CingularDuality

You don't think there's a huge difference between a wall to keep your own people in, and a wall to keep criminals out of your country?

Big difference, especially when the wall they want to build is not the same length as the border it is supposed to be "protecting". 700 miles of fence on a 2100 mile border makes me feel about as secure as that gun under my pillow that I have no ammo for when there is a burglar downstairs.

Steeler · 10-11-2007, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CingularDuality

You don't think there's a huge difference between a wall to keep your own people in, and a wall to keep criminals out of your country?

The wall doesn't know what it was built for. It just does what a wall is supposed to do - keep things on one side from going to the other side. The Berlin Wall was as much about keeping the west out as it was about keeping the east in.

SmokingTarpan · 10-11-2007, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JinxX

So let me get this straight, from what your statement points is that my whole plan here is to get people to believe my conspiracy theory and make everyone believe me to feed my need for attention that mommy and daddy never gave me?

In all honesty, to me you sound like someone hired by the Ron Paul campaign to go spread the word about him through the tactic of fear-mongering.

Your posts have inconsistencies. First you say that this stuff has already happened, the world has gone to hell, the sky is falling and we need to bunker down. Then you later admit that the likelihood of any of this stuff actually happening is along the same odds as a meteor crashing into us tomorrow. You've now even changed the "new" currency from Amero to Amera, heh.

It's one thing to come here and make a post, "Hey guys, check this out. This is what I think, what about you?" It's something totally different to say, "This stuff is already happening, we're all doomed. But on a side note, check Ron Paul for President 2008."

You could be a person that's truly concerned about a possible catastrophe that could befall the US populace. However, the way you've gone about it raises my suspicions greatly.

**CingularDuality** · 10-11-2007, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Steeler

The wall doesn't know what it was built for. It just does what a wall is supposed to do - keep things on one side from going to the other side. The Berlin Wall was as much about keeping the west out as it was about keeping the east in.

The wall doesn't know jack. It's a wall.

And if you think that any wall we put on the border is about keeping Americans from leaving, well, whatever... I can't believe you're arguing this point.

Oh, and did you guys see these? It was designed by a coin designer that did the New York and Rhode Island state quarters.

Kerostasis · 10-11-2007, 04:32 PM

Cing, I'm suprised that you, of all people, don't know the story behind that coin.

The Amero does not exist yet, nor is there any plans to create one. However, a professional coin designer who is personally betting that they will make one at some point in the future decided to design a prototype on his own in the hopes that the Mint would use him to design the official coin, if and when it ever actually happened.

That is a photo of his prototype, and the coin is not actually legal tender for any transaction, anywhere. Think of it like a piece of his resume, stamped into metal.

JinxX · 10-12-2007, 01:13 AM

=P Trust me if Ron Paul(?) hired me I'd be spreading this in more places. He didn't, his administration didn't. I just saw him interesting, found him while editing my second post and it just seemed that he was more different than any of the other candidates. Your vote is your vote. Aside from that I play BF2142~

As for the mis-spelling of Amero, sorry for that again, it was a pretty late post and I was tired. I'm all open for opinions, I'm bad on the law, constitution side of things. That was why I changed to a more calm state when it was said that the chances of the constitution being destroyed is slim to none thanks to the Army.

I'll admit my first few posts were pretty bad and I apologize for that again. I still stand by my thoughts on the constitution being re-written or eliminated in the near futures as a possibility its best to get these things known. I only threw Ron up there because he was entirely against it and the war ~ Its sort of the same what us Americans are against.

P.S Amero is an idea in the works, its not a fact yet.

**CingularDuality** · 10-12-2007, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Kerostasis

Cing, I'm suprised that you, of all people, don't know the story behind that coin.

Why in the world would you assume that I don't know the story behind that coin?

Have you seen this one?

Or these?

Kerostasis · 10-12-2007, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CingularDuality

Why in the world would you assume that I don't know the story behind that coin?

Why? Because you posted it in such a way as to suggest it was evidence for the coming Amero, when it is, in fact, nothing of the sort. And then because you declined to offer any explanation whatsoever to the more jittery folks among us who have already shown an inclination towards being scared by that sort of thing. I expected that had you known what the thing was, you would have shown the courtesy of explaining what you were posting, instead of merely fueling the fires of controversy.

**CingularDuality** · 10-12-2007, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kerostasis

I expected that had you known what the thing was, you would have shown the courtesy of explaining what you were posting, instead of merely fueling the fires of controversy.

I was posting a photo of an Amero coin designed by the guy that designed the New York and Rhode Island state quarters. I thought I said that.

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And then because you declined to offer any explanation whatsoever to the more jittery folks among us who have already shown an inclination towards being scared by that sort of thing.

I didn't decline anything. I didn't see anyone ask about the photo of the coin. Did you? If not, then how in the world could I have declined to explain it?

Kerostasis · 10-12-2007, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CingularDuality

I was posting a photo of an Amero coin designed by the guy that designed the New York and Rhode Island state quarters. I thought I said that.

Fine, fine...except for one small problem. It's NOT an Amero coin. Its a metal-stamped resume piece that could theoretically serve as a future prototype of an Amero. That difference seems significant to me. I take it you don't agree?

**CingularDuality** · 10-12-2007, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kerostasis

Fine, fine...except for one small problem. It's NOT an Amero coin. Its a metal-stamped resume piece that could theoretically serve as a future prototype of an Amero. That difference seems significant to me. I take it you don't agree?

I think you're arguing semantics. Whether or not the Amero is truly in our future, or is just a conspiracy has no impact on the fact that there are prototype Amero coins out there.

Would you say that the prototype presidential dollars are something other than presidential dollar coins?

Kerostasis · 10-12-2007, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CingularDuality

I think you're arguing semantics. Whether or not the Amero is truly in our future, or is just a conspiracy has no impact on the fact that there are prototype Amero coins out there.

Would you say that the prototype presidential dollars are something other than presidential dollar coins?

If I was interjecting that prototype Presidential Dollar into a conversation about how all paper currency was going to be scrapped and replaced with Presidential Dollar coins, and this was a sign of the coming apocalypse, then yes, I would take care to distinguish between the Prototype I was looking at and the non-existant "real thing". If I was going into a conversation about possible designs for future dollar-denomination coins after the public rejection of Susan B Anthony silver dollars, then I could more safely assume the picture would speak for itself, without being misinterpreted.

You have to consider context, Cing. The difference between "The US Mint plans to scrap the dollar as a currency" and "this one guy decided to make an Amero piece to put on his own metal-working resume" is more than mere Semantics.

**CingularDuality** · 10-12-2007, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kerostasis

If I was interjecting that prototype Presidential Dollar into a conversation about how all paper currency was going to be scrapped and replaced with Presidential Dollar coins, and this was a sign of the coming apocalypse, then yes, I would take care to distinguish between the Prototype I was looking at and the non-existant "real thing". If I was going into a conversation about possible designs for future dollar-denomination coins after the public rejection of Susan B Anthony silver dollars, then I could more safely assume the picture would speak for itself, without being misinterpreted.

You have to consider context, Cing. The difference between "The US Mint plans to scrap the dollar as a currency" and "this one guy decided to make an Amero piece to put on his own metal-working resume" is more than mere Semantics.

Heh... If you say so. I thought we all knew that the Amero is a concept being proposed (like any other non-existent "real thing") and that, therefore, any photos would be of prototypes/mock-ups/photochops/etc...

The fact that this is a proposed coin changes the discussion how? I don't understand. Does the photo increase or decrease the likelihood of the Amero being real and in our future? Does the photo mean that even though the Amero is real and is coming in just a matter of time, that we can't change that? Does the photo confirm that the Amero is just a conspiracy and that nobody seriously wants it?

The photo changes nothing. It's just interesting. There doesn't need to be any context there. It's just a cool looking coin, and the presence of such a coin really isn't important in the grand scheme of things...

JinxX · 10-12-2007, 03:05 PM

youtube.com/watch?v=s9YToCzAJ9Q

I still believe bad things are going to happen. Maybe not tomorrow, in a week maybe in a few months. Who knows but, I'd rather not see it happen. =/ I'm speaking as the useless new generation of America to the older one. If you get the opportunity to speak out of do something about it (For those whom agree that this is not the way to go) please do so. Every voice matters.

As for this whole Amero thing, yes it is a concept being proposed but as we know it MIGHT be getting worked on. I mean, the North American Union was never proposed was it? It was just one of those things we found out two years later.

10-12-2007, 01:13 AM	#37 (permalink)
JinxX Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 11	Re: The North American Union - Zeigeist =P Trust me if Ron Paul(?) hired me I'd be spreading this in more places. He didn't, his administration didn't. I just saw him interesting, found him while editing my second post and it just seemed that he was more different than any of the other candidates. Your vote is your vote. Aside from that I play BF2142~ As for the mis-spelling of Amero, sorry for that again, it was a pretty late post and I was tired. I'm all open for opinions, I'm bad on the law, constitution side of things. That was why I changed to a more calm state when it was said that the chances of the constitution being destroyed is slim to none thanks to the Army. I'll admit my first few posts were pretty bad and I apologize for that again. I still stand by my thoughts on the constitution being re-written or eliminated in the near futures as a possibility its best to get these things known. I only threw Ron up there because he was entirely against it and the war ~ Its sort of the same what us Americans are against. P.S Amero is an idea in the works, its not a fact yet.

10-12-2007, 03:05 PM	#45 (permalink)
JinxX Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 11	Re: The North American Union - Zeigeist youtube.com/watch?v=s9YToCzAJ9Q I still believe bad things are going to happen. Maybe not tomorrow, in a week maybe in a few months. Who knows but, I'd rather not see it happen. =/ I'm speaking as the useless new generation of America to the older one. If you get the opportunity to speak out of do something about it (For those whom agree that this is not the way to go) please do so. Every voice matters. As for this whole Amero thing, yes it is a concept being proposed but as we know it MIGHT be getting worked on. I mean, the North American Union was never proposed was it? It was just one of those things we found out two years later.

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