WTH just happened in NH primary? - Page 5

**CingularDuality** · 01-15-2008, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gambit7

you got it backwards... Government = Constitution. The Constitution wasnt made for the people... it was made to GOVERN the people. I'm implying the only way to get anything done is NOT to have the govt do it.

Hmmm, have you ever read the Constitution?

ScratchMonkey · 01-15-2008, 08:24 PM

I'd drop the "and the fed", since it didn't even exist at the time. The Fed is the machinery that implements the contract, and because it's very dangerous machinery, the contract is written to place strict limits on its power. In spite of that, the machinery has escaped the limits placed on it. The dog has slipped the leash.

Replacing the original vision of the Founders with "true democracy" is a step backward: The French tried that and look what happened. Mob rule is not pretty.

In my view, rights are not additive: The combined rights of two people (or a million) do not trump the rights of one individual.

**Gambit7** · 01-15-2008, 08:32 PM

You cant reform the government without reforming the Constitution. Logic hurts, but most of the time it's true.

ScratchMonkey · 01-15-2008, 08:42 PM

The Constitution isn't the problem. It's the disregarding of the Constitution that's the problem.

But perhaps you can point out specific problems with it. I'm all ears.

01-15-2008, 08:24 PM	#62 (permalink)
ScratchMonkey Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Pablo, California Posts: 3,349	Re: WTH just happened in NH primary? I'd drop the "and the fed", since it didn't even exist at the time. The Fed is the machinery that implements the contract, and because it's very dangerous machinery, the contract is written to place strict limits on its power. In spite of that, the machinery has escaped the limits placed on it. The dog has slipped the leash. Replacing the original vision of the Founders with "true democracy" is a step backward: The French tried that and look what happened. Mob rule is not pretty. In my view, rights are not additive: The combined rights of two people (or a million) do not trump the rights of one individual. __________________ Sig

01-15-2008, 08:32 PM	#63 (permalink)
Gambit7 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hollywood, FL Age: 31 Posts: 1,636	Re: WTH just happened in NH primary? You cant reform the government without reforming the Constitution. Logic hurts, but most of the time it's true. __________________

01-15-2008, 08:42 PM	#64 (permalink)
ScratchMonkey Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Pablo, California Posts: 3,349	Re: WTH just happened in NH primary? The Constitution isn't the problem. It's the disregarding of the Constitution that's the problem. But perhaps you can point out specific problems with it. I'm all ears. __________________ Sig

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