Hello Kitty AR-15 - Page 4

ScratchMonkey · 02-19-2008, 02:41 PM

Now if only they'd cut off their 11th finger and join the Darwin awards....

**BigGaayAl** · 02-20-2008, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ScratchMonkey

Now if only they'd cut off their 11th finger and join the Darwin awards....

No they can still use artificial insemination. They would have to cut off their balls to qualify, which seems a lot harder.On the other hand there are so many possible victims on the earth that one person is sure to find a way.

sculls · 02-24-2008, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Eroak

Guns are designed to fire small arms projectiles or non-lethel agents. People decide what they are going to shoot. Some of of shoot only at targets for sport. Some of us hunt. Some more of us will only fire in absolute self-defense.

Beautifully written.
"Then there are the select few who kill people and chose thier tool to be a gun. People chose to kill people. Guns are tools and nothing more without a human behind it."
Tools eh? like a spanner or a ruler. Ah spanner or a ruler is made to create with and a gun is made to destroy with correct me if im wrong. Big difference there mr Eroak.

**BigGaayAl** · 02-24-2008, 09:40 AM

I always wondered why in the land where guns are tools, "wmd"s are not.

**El_Gringo_Grande** · 02-24-2008, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Eroak

Guns are designed to fire small arms projectiles or non-lethel agents. People decide what they are going to shoot. Some of of shoot only at targets for sport. Some of us hunt. Some more of us will only fire in absolute self-defense. Then there are the select few who kill people and chose thier tool to be a gun. People chose to kill people. Guns are tools and nothing more without a human behind it.

Oh come on... Guns are designed to kill. Yes, humans are crafty little buggers and find all kinds of secondary uses for things. Take away the ability for a gun to kill and sales go to almost zero.

**CingularDuality** · 02-24-2008, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by El_Gringo_Grande

Oh come on... Guns are designed to kill. Yes, humans are crafty little buggers and find all kinds of secondary uses for things. Take away the ability for a gun to kill and sales go to almost zero.

Indeed, the ability to kill is of primary concern, but what are guns really used for? The vast majority are used to put holes in paper, bring home meat for dinner, or simply sitting somewhere providing a little bit of comfort, knowing that you have more control over your tiny piece of this world. A relative few are used to murder in this country.

ScratchMonkey · 02-25-2008, 05:52 PM

IIRC the 10 commandments include "thou shalt not kill". I'm not a Christian, but most who are claim that "kill" means "murder" and that this law doesn't disallow self defense. Hence, I take the word "kill" to carry a lot of context that can be used to present a misleading argument.

Guns aren't designed to murder. I'm not even convinced that they're designed to stop the recipient of the bullet from living. Anyone in the military here and involved in procurement who can report what specs are desired in a combat gun? Isn't it just incapacitation? Is the stopping of life ever specified in the specs?

xTYBALTx · 02-25-2008, 06:26 PM

Yeah, the 5.56x45 NATO is designed to incapacitate. The theory being that a wounded soldier, who must be transported and cared for, places a greater strain on the enemy than a simple dead soldier. But that's a military weapon, an assault rifle.

Hunting rifles are designed to kill. They typically deliver far higher amounts of energy.

**Tonk** · 02-25-2008, 06:54 PM

with that said, a beurocrat would think that if an assault rifle is used to wound and not kill, then they shouldnt be needed by civilian, in that if used for hunting, would not be effective in dropping your game ( animal which you are hunting )

xTYBALTx · 02-25-2008, 07:26 PM

Why is that? Are bureaucrats predisposed to believe that civilians only possess firearms solely for hunting purposes? I own lots of guns and have precisely zero interest in hunting.

But then, I'm not a bureaucrat.

sculls · 02-25-2008, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by xTYBALTx

Why is that? Are bureaucrats predisposed to believe that civilians only possess firearms solely for hunting purposes? I own lots of guns and have precisely zero interest in hunting.

But then, I'm not a bureaucrat.

What do you do with them? Are you ready for the apocalypse? Self defence? Shooting paper targets? Just like to look at them?

Acreo Aeneas · 02-25-2008, 09:03 PM

Cingy just won my heart with those cute modded guns. The collaspsable pistol handle on the AR looks neat. Now it can be both a long rifle and a AR.

ScratchMonkey · 02-25-2008, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonk

with that said, a beurocrat would think that if an assault rifle is used to wound and not kill, then they shouldnt be needed by civilian, in that if used for hunting, would not be effective in dropping your game ( animal which you are hunting )

If everyone can afford a personal bodyguard, then "civilians" don't need guns for self defense. The US courts have ruled that the police are not liable if you get injured because they didn't show up in time. So the police are not a reliable defense against violence.

So where's my subsidy for hiring my personal bodyguard?

Acreo Aeneas · 02-25-2008, 09:33 PM

You don't get one. The courts will say that the government is not responsible for your personal security and is only responsible for the security of the nation as a whole.

In short, if guns were banned, us civies would be screwed if we were robbed at gunpoint and had to face death minutes later.

Back on topic...

Cingy, how did you mod the AR handle to swivel like that? Do they sell extra AR handles or something?

xTYBALTx · 02-25-2008, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sculls

What do you do with them? Are you ready for the apocalypse? Self defence? Shooting paper targets? Just like to look at them?

My shotgun looks like this:

Apocalypse? Check.
Self Defense? Check.
Like to look at them? Check.
Paper targets? How boring.

02-19-2008, 02:41 PM	#46 (permalink)
ScratchMonkey Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Pablo, California Posts: 4,565	Re: Hello Kitty AR-15 Now if only they'd cut off their 11th finger and join the Darwin awards.... __________________

02-24-2008, 09:40 AM	#49 (permalink)
BigGaayAl Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: gent, belgium Posts: 1,500	Re: Hello Kitty AR-15 I always wondered why in the land where guns are tools, "wmd"s are not. __________________ Support your right to arm bears. ~Cleveland Amory I am a kind of paranoiac in reverse. I suspect people of plotting to make me happy. ~J.D. Salinger

02-25-2008, 05:52 PM	#52 (permalink)
ScratchMonkey Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Pablo, California Posts: 4,565	Re: Hello Kitty AR-15 IIRC the 10 commandments include "thou shalt not kill". I'm not a Christian, but most who are claim that "kill" means "murder" and that this law doesn't disallow self defense. Hence, I take the word "kill" to carry a lot of context that can be used to present a misleading argument. Guns aren't designed to murder. I'm not even convinced that they're designed to stop the recipient of the bullet from living. Anyone in the military here and involved in procurement who can report what specs are desired in a combat gun? Isn't it just incapacitation? Is the stopping of life ever specified in the specs? __________________

02-25-2008, 06:26 PM	#53 (permalink)
xTYBALTx Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,919	Re: Hello Kitty AR-15 Yeah, the 5.56x45 NATO is designed to incapacitate. The theory being that a wounded soldier, who must be transported and cared for, places a greater strain on the enemy than a simple dead soldier. But that's a military weapon, an assault rifle. Hunting rifles are designed to kill. They typically deliver far higher amounts of energy. __________________ A policy of freedom for the individual is the only truly progressive policy. -F.A. Hayek "$250,000 a year won't get me to Central Park West."

02-25-2008, 06:54 PM	#54 (permalink)
Tonk Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Luck, WI USA Age: 22 Posts: 3,030	Re: Hello Kitty AR-15 with that said, a beurocrat would think that if an assault rifle is used to wound and not kill, then they shouldnt be needed by civilian, in that if used for hunting, would not be effective in dropping your game ( animal which you are hunting ) __________________ -Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely, in an attractive and well preserved body; but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, a beer in the other, body totally worn out screaming "YEEEHAW, WHAT A RIDE!!!" - my grandpa -My New Rig: cpu: AMD 6400+ 3.2ghz dual core mobo: Asus Crosshair ram: 8gb (4x2gb) geil exotera 4-4-4-12 video card MSI 8800GTS 512mb (g92) Vista:x64 Laptop: Dell i9300 2.16ghz-2gb ram-6800-17" 1920x1200 -Toasty/Tonk/Chair http://tgtonk.notlong.com

02-25-2008, 07:26 PM	#55 (permalink)
xTYBALTx Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,919	Re: Hello Kitty AR-15 Why is that? Are bureaucrats predisposed to believe that civilians only possess firearms solely for hunting purposes? I own lots of guns and have precisely zero interest in hunting. But then, I'm not a bureaucrat. __________________ A policy of freedom for the individual is the only truly progressive policy. -F.A. Hayek "$250,000 a year won't get me to Central Park West."

02-25-2008, 09:03 PM	#57 (permalink)
Acreo Aeneas Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DePaul University (Chicago) Age: 22 Posts: 4,691	Re: Hello Kitty AR-15 Cingy just won my heart with those cute modded guns. The collaspsable pistol handle on the AR looks neat. Now it can be both a long rifle and a AR. __________________ Current Obsessions: Netbooks and other low-cost, small, and portable PCs. RSS Feeds: Bamboo

02-25-2008, 09:33 PM	#59 (permalink)
Acreo Aeneas Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DePaul University (Chicago) Age: 22 Posts: 4,691	Re: Hello Kitty AR-15 You don't get one. The courts will say that the government is not responsible for your personal security and is only responsible for the security of the nation as a whole. In short, if guns were banned, us civies would be screwed if we were robbed at gunpoint and had to face death minutes later. Back on topic... Cingy, how did you mod the AR handle to swivel like that? Do they sell extra AR handles or something? __________________ Current Obsessions: Netbooks and other low-cost, small, and portable PCs. RSS Feeds: Bamboo

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