brain21

I say it again, GAZA STRIP.

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Kerostasis

The jews are an interesting case. If you look 3000 years back in history, they were involved in lots of wars. If you look at the period 1 AD -- 1950 AD, they were almost exclusively the victims of these types of acts, never the perpetrators.

Then you have the modern period after the creation of the state of Israel: Israel has been under near constant attack basically since the day it was created. I think Israel had been a state for all of about 4 hours when 3 different Arab nations declared war on it for the first time. Israel has responded to these constant attacks with a fairly constant stream of counter-attacks, and depending on who you talk to, you may hear that they are innocent people trying only to secure their own safety, or you may hear that they are cruel evil racists bent on world domination.

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mentholated

I'm starting to actually believe that. Not the individual men and women of that nation, but the elite bankers that represent it. The rich hold all of the chips, and the nations get the money from the rich.

SharinganTH1422

"Evil" is completely subjective (Fubar basically said this, and I decided to summarise, because I completely agree).

Something that a famous Yoda once said: "Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering." Ok, it's Star Wars, but it's relevant, and absolutely true.

Indeed. I've been to the USA, FOX and CNN are not news, it's more like dramatised propaganda, and TBH what we get here is not much better.

True that people are easy to mould, and again, much of this argument is based on people's subjective experiences. Someone that lives in a predominantly white area of the USA, watching CNN everyday, will have a different opinion to an Asian (that's South Asian, like what you would call "Indians" (Not Native Americans, the other type of Indians, like Russell Peters) in the US) living in the UK.

It's due to the freedom we have, like the freedom of speech everyone is expressing right now. There will always be rebellion in a tolerant system.

So drugs that ruin lives and that are funding terrorism and murder...you think that's OK?

I'm guessing you got this out of a textbook, or something like that right? Because it's not factual.

Neo-Nazis that have crosses tattooed on the back of their heads...I've had many confrontations with people like this, my dad was threatened by a skinhead while the whole family was at a shopping centre, when my mum went into a bar to ask to use a phone to phone the police and tell them people of our situation (almost all of them white), they simply laughed and jeered. It ended well (not for the guy that was threatening us), and I'm not trying to get sympathy or anything like that, but there's a lot of these type of people out there, that will attack others, simply for the colour of their skin/their religion (my dad and I have a clear sign of our religion). Now they may not run into a building and blow up the place, but saying that there are no racist/extremist Christians is an ignorant statement. In Eastern Europe, and even Russia, large parts of the Government are made up of Christian extremists, where violence against refugees/immigrants from the Middle East is accepted.

All religion is at fault? I'm not sure what the % is but quite a lot of the world's population believe in some sort of "higher being" (to roughly quote (I think) the film Contact). I personally believe in God. I don't believe I should be killing people. People believe they should be killing us, but whatever. Someone said to try and say race doesn't matter in LA (guessing you mean like South, Central, right?) or religion doesn't matter in Israel. Well try and say all religion is at fault where I live and you'll probably have your legs ripped off (and that's not an exaggeration). Religion is a large part of every society, and it breeds much happiness, as well as contempt. If you have never had a religious experience before (and by this I don't mean having a hallucination that feels like an acid trip where you talk to God) you probably don't understand, and to be honest I'm not a super religious guy so these times are few and far between. Saying that all religions are at fault is something I think you should only be saying behind closed doors. Obviously it's your right to exercise free speech, but that could very well be considered offensive.

Apart from what's going on right now in Israel, have you seen the film Munich? Those Jewish assassins were painted in a "human" way, unlike the Muslims at the beginning, by Steven Spielberg, one of the most influential men in Hollywood, who happens to be Jewish. No-one knows how those Jewish hostages were treated, yet the Muslims were shown as animalistic and just, plain, cold-hearted, and the Jewish hostages were shown as brave, civilised men (Not saying that they were not. In my own words, we have no idea what happened with those hostages, or how those Muslims behaved/treated their captors, but their portrayal was very pro-Jewish). Of course, those Muslims were terrible men to do what they did, I don't sympathise with them at all, but the film is almost excusing what the Jewish assassins did, by showing their human/sensitive side, while the same cannot be said for the Muslims.

Misinterpretation is done often indeed, in every religion. That's how different branches of religion come into existence, and the fighting within them.

Now you're getting onto a different topic altogether, you're questioning the existence of God, so I'll just say my peace on this.

Faith = Gullibility according to you. Basically, what you are saying is that any kind of blind faith is irrational and naive. That is your opinion, and I completely understand it, for someone who is not religious at all (I'm guessing you're an atheist, although I won't ask you to reveal your beliefs, since it's obviously private, unless you don't mind), this is a given. I have come across a lot of stuff, and without sounding too much like the guy at the end of Blade Runner, I've seen things you wouldn't believe, heard things, first-hand accounts, of unexplainable things, been at places with extraordinary religious events. Most facts or assumptions in the world carry a certain amount of faith with them, and I see the existence of God as no different. In the religion that I belong to, the only "blind faith" that there is, is the belief in God. Everything else is about leading a good life. Now, before I start getting into preaching territory, I'd just like to address the actual issue.

There are ell over 6.5 billion people on this earth with lots of different views and ways of life. Unless you have the power and will to purge the world of all the "evil" in the world (according to you), then the world will remain a place with idiots. Something you perceive as evil and idiotic is subjective to your experiences. The media controls what we see and hear, and they have their own motives for this. Saying you should get rid of religions because it creates terrorism is like saying you should chop off every guy's ID of his manhood because it creates rape. It's a small minority of people that are extremist. I'm not a Muslim, but a lot of my friends are and I live in an ethnic area with a lot of Muslims and other Asians, as well as black people. Actually, sometimes it feels like white people are almost the minority . When I ask my Muslim friends about the extremists, they don't say that those extremists are Muslims. They are like a whole different religion to them. Neo-Nazis are alive and kicking (any "coloured" thing in their way). One of the local areas is now a constituent of the BNP (British National Party), who's plan is to get rid of all non-Caucasians, which is quite silly, because most of the white people here are not 100% Caucasian, due to different invasions/migrations throughout Britain's history.




Most of this is just my random thoughts, and its just splogded in a senseless order.

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...If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,
If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same...

Ikariam:
1) Uchiha - Nezyos [50:31] - Crystal glass
2) Hyuuga - Engoos [77:79] - Wine

Rincewind

This thread is broken. It wont let me go to page 5.

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SharinganTH1422

Me neither, I think this is the last page, since I posted the message above when it said there was 5 pages, when I couldn't click on the 5th page, and it ended up on the 4th page, so...

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Anger is a gift - Malcolm X

...If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,
If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same...

Ikariam:
1) Uchiha - Nezyos [50:31] - Crystal glass
2) Hyuuga - Engoos [77:79] - Wine

Kerostasis

The system that counts how many posts are in a thread, and assigns the correct number of pages to them, has been consistently reporting a different number of posts from those actually displayed in the thread for awhile now. To be precise, ever since Mentholated disappeared. My guess is that he's been turned site-wide invisible, so all of his posts don't show up anymore, but they still raise the post-count of the thread so it gets an extra page before there are enough visible posts to actually fill that page.

If you're not sure whether or not you found the end of the thread, hit the reply button (not quick reply) and look down to the "review the thread" section which always shows the most recent X number of posts. If the last post there is the one you just finished reading, then you've found the last page, even if theres a button that says it takes you to another page.

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Sir-Nerd

I need to talk to my friend's rabbi and the local Priest. Both are good friend of my family.

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SharinganTH1422

I would do that if I were you, you're lucky you have such first-hand resources, and I'm pretty sure they'll be happy to answer your questions.

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Anger is a gift - Malcolm X

...If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,
If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same...

Ikariam:
1) Uchiha - Nezyos [50:31] - Crystal glass
2) Hyuuga - Engoos [77:79] - Wine

Sir-Nerd

Yeah my town is a cosmopolitan college town that has nearly every type of person in it.

Not many places have an Indian, native American, a man from south Africa, a blind rabbi, a gay couple, a lesbian couple, a few emo/punk rockers, and quantum physicists sitting and having lunch together.

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Acreo Aeneas

Take a "Multiculturalism" class with a obsessed pro-feminist professor sometime. I'm taking one now and it's near impossible to not concede to her point of view. Gawd.

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