El_Gringo_Grande

If you come from where I do, yes. I doubt you will find many from my part of the world that would be shocked like some of you and many others are.

Now the marines have to punish this person. If for nothing else but being stupid. He should have know not to do this. They are supposed to be the protectors of the weak and helpless. Puppy tossing does not fit this image.

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Atomic Dog

I've been around farmers since I've moved here to Michigan. I know that killing kitten and puppies is all too common on the farm. But again, every farmer I know did so for a purpose and a reason and certainly took no delight in it...let alone have it recorded so they could show it off to their buddies.

When I was working with bee keepers, it was very common to see my employer taking a cat out behind the barn and putting it down with his shotgun. I'll be damned if that didn't ruin his day though. Sometimes it has to be done, I agree. It certainly didn't in this situation.

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There is no accounting for stupidity. Filming it simply shows the power stupidity. Most people still don’t realize that filming and posting a video that is seen by tens of millions will draw unwanted attention with unforeseen and unwitting self-destruction.

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squeak

Thinking about it, I know I wouldn't be shocked or upset. I remember as a kid we used to kill snakes and rats (and mice and coyotes) all the time (I had family in rural/farm areas).

But then again this wasn't a rat or a snake, it was a puppy. Not a full grown wild animal but an animal that has been domesticated. If the puppy needed to be put down there are more humane ways of doing it.

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SharinganTH1422

I think the way it was killed is the main problem. Throwing an animal to its death for a laugh is unnaceptable, no matter what animal it is.

C'mon, that's going a little easy...

Yh, that's a little better.

YEAHHH. Now we're talking.

And what's that reason again?

Sure.

Heh, I like to believe I'm not in the nicest of areas, and guys here would sooner scalp a person for laughs than kill a puppy. I dunno, but I guess violence to animals here is a lot less accepted than violence to people, because I wouldn't be too happy at someone killing any animals like this for no particular reason, less so than seeing a guy being rushed on the road.

Pretty much. I see people dealing drugs almost everyday to young guys (pre-teens, maybe early) not far from where I live...just because it happens all the time, doesn't make it acceptable.

So you're saying it's fine as long as it's not on video and on youtube...?


Edit: Someone has sent me a message about interpreting the comment I made on a certain race of people as racist. I have deleted the comment in case anyone takes it the wrong way and would just like to say, I made that comment because I'm especially angry about the situation in Iraq. Why? I'm of the same race as those people. My Colonel Uncle is not in the British/American army, he's in the Indian Army...

India and Iraq are obviously very far away, and different from each other, but when commenting on your own "race" of people, you forget that some people may get offended by what you say. The "anger", can stem from some connections to middle eastern countries, from which others are effected by.

Just clearing that up if anyone else got that same impression as the person sending me the PM. I also apologize if I offended anyone, I sometimes forget when talking over the internet that people can't look at me and see who I really am, so they can understand what I mean.

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Steeler

After watching what's available online, I'm not sure it's real. Something about the audio doesn't seem right.

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WhiskeySix

hm. So am I really the only one not outraged by it? Yeah it's stupid, but...

I can't be the only one that grew up w/ a BB gun and animal-filled woods out back! I also can't be the only one that did stupid things w/ said BB gun to the aforementioned furry woodland creatures.

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SharinganTH1422

Growing up in a kind of grey, concrete-dominated area I can't say this has happened to me, although I did shoot my friend with a bb gun. However, a curious kid shooting at squirrels is a little different to a bunch of guys laughing at the expense of a squealing dog plummeting down a cliff...But even what you did wasn't the nicest thing. I mean, at this (maturer) age, would you grab a puppy off the ground, and film you chucking it down a cliff?

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Lorax74

I don't know that outraged is the right word, sickened or disheartened might be more accurate.

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Atomic Dog

Although, seriously, everyone knows if the vid was a puppy chucking a marine off the cliff we'd all be having a good laugh.

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It's really quite simple guys.

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Funniest. Picture. Ever.

ikonic

There is a longer version clip of these 2 going around in a humvee doing a drive-by on an iraqi shepherd's sheep/goat/animals and some other stupid things. That said, the clear and obvious difference between going out back with a BB gun and shooting furry woodland creatures, the whole "it happens all the time" logic, and these 2 idiots is the fact that they are representing a country and the military while in uniform. Look at the people that babble their ignorant lack of respect towards marines/military/USA (not just here) because of this. Another thing is that the Marine's families are now being threatened/stalked.

So what have we learned here? If you clearly have a gross disregard for life like these 2 jerkweeds and video tape it, it's bound to be leaked. These people should be on one of those "Dumbest Criminals" TV shows/segments.

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Lorax74

Let's take it a step further and ask if these two (or three) individuals shown took pleasure in an activity such as this, then one has to wonder how they treated citizens they were charged with protecting.

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SharinganTH1422

Exactly Lorax.

It should be simple enough to find some documentaries on the way our (British and American) troops treat Iraqi civilians (but not all troops obviously).

I saw one just the other day, and how very few have come to court and have had charges pressed, while the worst punishment was being thrown out of the army and a heavy fine with a few months in prison.

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