Cannabis in TG - Page 2

**sordavie** · 03-20-2008, 08:00 PM

I've never met anyone with a 160+ IQ. I don't even think many people have taken a real IQ test. There aren't many reasons to take a real IQ test. If you took one as an adult, it was probably as part of your application to something like Mensa. But other than that, few adults have good reason to drop $100 and a few hours on a real supervised IQ test.

If you took one as a child, it was probably because school administrators thought something was wrong with you. I was forced to take three throughout my primary and secondary schooling. That's because I was failing 2nd grade, and they wanted to see what was wrong with me.

leejo · 03-20-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sordavie

So you and him are certified geniuses? Which test was this, the Wechsler? The most commonly administered test for adults is on the Wechsler Adult Intelligence scale. A 167 on the Wechsler means you scored in the 99.9997 percentile. Statistically that puts you in the company of the top 1,800 people in the world. The average Ph.D or M.D. holder scores a 125. That's the 95th percentile.

Or are you basing this on an internet IQ test?

Really? I know I tested in this range when I was a kid. No idea what test or what the effect of all those years huffing white-out have had.

Not surprised about MDs and PhDs...

With regard to the cannabis, it's like what Lenin said. Find the person who profits and uh....um...you know...what?

Switch · 03-20-2008, 08:06 PM

Ha, I had the same thing... they wanted to hold me back in kindergarten for being 'too immature'

Boredom is the root of immature behavior

Eventually I got a supervised test and a little card that had the letter M on it :P
ME 1 - SCHOOL 0

----------------- EDIT ----------------
Go to wiki and read about how IQ is calculated and what it means before pooping out your 'IQ score'.

In order for your score to mean anything, we need to know the standard deviation for the test you took!

I scored 130 something on the MENSA test, which was equal to 120 something on the stanford-binet, which could equal only 110 something on another test, or maybe 140 something on another... Knowing the test is important! IQ scores use standard deviations to figure out where your intelligence ranks compared to the rest of the population. Each test produces a different standard deviation.

**Dirtboy** · 03-20-2008, 08:07 PM

Guys...I am not sure that this is a mature topic for Tactical Gamer. We do have kids that frequent these forums and some of them even look up to you!

I do not look down on those who use illegal drugs, it's your choice! But what I am saying is that this is not an appropriate place to discuss it (or at least admit to it).

leejo · 03-20-2008, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sordavie

I've never met anyone with a 160+ IQ. I don't even think many people have taken a real IQ test. There aren't many reasons to take a real IQ test.

Maybe this explains why so few test so high: nobody gives a damn enough to take the test.

I took it several times as a kid. I only found out the results once by accident. One was to get into a summer program and the rest were to figure out what was wrong with me. The last time I took one was when I was 21 and they were trying to figure out what was wrong with me I mean trying to quantify my awesomeness.

My wife takes care of that now by muttering "idiot" from time to time.

Anyway, the test has never done anything for me one way or the other. I cannot fathom why anyone would join Mensa, for example.

leejo · 03-20-2008, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtboy

Guys...I am not sure that this is a mature topic for Tactical Gamer. We do have kids that frequent these forums and some of them even look up to you!

I do not look down on those who use illegal drugs, it's your choice! But what I am saying is that this is not an appropriate place to discuss it (or at least admit to it).

I disagree because it's basically a political discussion. If, hypothetically, some young TGer who idolizes me (you know who you are) were to learn that I, hypothetically, smoke weed, watch porn, drive too fast, litter, or occasionally download an mp3, then I'd say to that young person "hey! Quit fooling around! Go do your homework!" Then I'd blame the parents for not keeping a closer eye on the sorts of folk their children...you know...what?

**Gogeta** · 03-20-2008, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by leejo

it's like what Lenin said. Find the person who profits and uh....um...you know...what?

I am the walrus ... ?

**El_Gringo_Grande** · 03-20-2008, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leejo

Really? I know I tested in this range when I was a kid. No idea what test or what the effect of all those years huffing white-out have had.

Not surprised about MDs and PhDs...

With regard to the cannabis, it's like what Lenin said. Find the person who profits and uh....um...you know...what?

Childhood IQ tests are known to be very poor indicators of anything. ESPECIALLY the ones give out 20 or so years ago. Back then most used a modified version of the Wechsler. Some simply took out the questions that they thought kids wouldn't know and guess what, scores went crazy. Because they compared the kids scores against the adult population.

Another problem was that the people administering the test where often government employees with almost no training.

We had like three geniuses at our school and a whole bunch of people in the 130-145 range. Our school had a total of like 300 kids K-12th. Eventually they figured something was wrong and just ignored the results.

Not saying you are not a genius.

**El_Gringo_Grande** · 03-20-2008, 09:42 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:IQ_curve.svg

In the linked picture they don't even show anything above 145.

I had to take one in college. I had failed my foreign language requirement 3 times in a row. I applied for a waiver and they said I had to get a couple of tests to prove I wasn't just trying to get out of a requirement. My professor paid for it because it cost 180 dollars.

To make sure the tests showed I had a problem with foreign languages I kinda scammed it.

Well, not really scammed it. I simply didn't put any effort into the questions that where the least bit difficult. So it showed exactly what I wanted it to, I had a very bad short term memory especially with pieces of information that are nonsensical. Exactly what a foreign language appears to be to a new learner.

I kinda knew how to do all this because I had taken another IQ test just a few months before as part of a psychological study. And my class that covered psychological testing, including IQ tests, was that semester and I had just given an abbreviated version to another student as part of the course work.

Just easing up on certain questions caused me to drop 10 points from the result I had gotten not 5 months before. That is almost a full standard deviation and that is quit a drop.

Even after that drop I still don't trust the score because it was way to high.

This story is actually kinda tied to the question of the thread. That night I smoked pot for the first time in celebration. I was worried I would not be able to graduate and I ended up getting the waiver in part because of what I had learned in college.

**squeak** · 03-21-2008, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Switch

Go to wiki and read about how IQ is calculated and what it means before pooping out your 'IQ score'.

In order for your score to mean anything, we need to know the standard deviation for the test you took!

I scored 130 something on the MENSA test, which was equal to 120 something on the stanford-binet, which could equal only 110 something on another test, or maybe 140 something on another... Knowing the test is important! IQ scores use standard deviations to figure out where your intelligence ranks compared to the rest of the population. Each test produces a different standard deviation.

So what you're really saying is, if I want to be smarter what I should be aiming at is making everyone else dummer.

Mission Accepted.

westyfield · 03-21-2008, 05:59 AM

I don't, have never, and will never smoke cannabis or normal cigarettes. I just wont.

I don't know what my IQ is but I'm sure it's low enough already without me lowering it further.

**Lusitano Louco** · 03-21-2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by westyfield

I don't, have never, and will never smoke cannabis or normal cigarettes. I just wont.

I don't know what my IQ is but I'm sure it's low enough already without me lowering it further.

It takes a big man to admit that...well...that he's uuh...a small man, I guess. I mean...carry on. Nothing to see here.

GlobalWarmin · 03-21-2008, 10:12 AM

I just have to say, those of you who think you have an IQ over 160 are way wrong. Somehow, though, I'm not surprised that video game playing internet people ridiculously overestimate their own intelligence.

leejo · 03-21-2008, 10:59 AM

Gosh it's so nice of you to pop in and say such nice things. Using my amazingly high IQ and astonishing mental powers, I have come up with this response to your post:

WhatEVah

I'm not interested in arguing my IQ score with anyone, but I know that when I was 21 I took the test as part of a battery of tests at a hospital, I saw the score, and I had lengthy conversations with Drs. about what the results meant.

**Elwenil** · 03-21-2008, 11:04 AM

Well it seems the topic has switched to more to my IQ than the original topic. I only mentioned the IQ thing as a comparison for what my friend's mother told me and the rather radical change that took place over the next decade. I have no proof of his score other than what his mother told me. As for my personal IQ, and the test, I already PM'd Sordavie my little story to answer his comments without drifting the thread since some here have told me I cause that somehow, but anyway here is a severely abbreviated explanation. When I was 16, for various school related reasons, I ended up in court and the judge decided to send me to a hospital for two weeks to run a battery of tests to see if I had a learning disability or could possibly have been crazy or something. I never knew what tests I took, because no one told me what they were called or even when one test started and another began. I did everything from medical scans, bloodwork and all sorts of ridiculous "square block not fit in round hole" type tests as well as a bunch of mathematical, problem solving, and sequence tests. I do remember it mentioned that the IQ test was the same as the one the military used, but that was sort of mentioned in passing and didn't mean much to me. You have to realize that I viewed this experience as though I was imprisoned and was being poked and prodded like I was a freak. Eh, I was 16 and thought I knew everything and was quite the smartass. At any rate I wasn't told anything until I went back to court and the judge was the one who told me what they said my IQ was. The judge said I was fine but commented that I was "eccentric". The records they gave me when I left, a free man no less and not crazy or anything, listed various tests that don't make a lot of sense to me even today and one was listed generically as "Intelligence Quotient Testing - Score 167" and then there was handwritten comments on the doctor's take on my personality and general "smarts".

So I may or may not be a "genius", I really don't know. I have never wondered about it and rarely mention it. I do know that I am above average intelligence (not trying to be egotistical or anything) but I don't wave it like a banner or mention it. So I listed the score as a comparison in the discussion and I do not claim that I am smarter than anyone in particular or claim that I am some rocket scientist or some other nonsense. I don't require that particular attention. I can't say exactly what test I was given or how that compares to anyone else and I don't really think much about it since that was over half of my life ago. Who knows if it even applies now, but at the time I was friends with the individual I was talking about at the time, it was fairly new in my mind then. I am not lying about the score I listed, I have no reason to, nor do I really care about the various random sarcastic opinions of people on the Internet, some of whom feel the need to negatively comment on just about everything. I do not lie, and take that very seriously. I did in my younger years but have made a commitment in my life many years ago to make my word worth something, so what I have said is the truth as best I know it. So there you have it, judge as you will since you are going to anyway...

03-20-2008, 08:00 PM	#16 (permalink)
sordavie Join Date: Nov 2005 Age: 27 Posts: 1,695	Re: Cannabis in TG I've never met anyone with a 160+ IQ. I don't even think many people have taken a real IQ test. There aren't many reasons to take a real IQ test. If you took one as an adult, it was probably as part of your application to something like Mensa. But other than that, few adults have good reason to drop $100 and a few hours on a real supervised IQ test. If you took one as a child, it was probably because school administrators thought something was wrong with you. I was forced to take three throughout my primary and secondary schooling. That's because I was failing 2nd grade, and they wanted to see what was wrong with me. __________________

03-20-2008, 08:06 PM	#18 (permalink)
Switch Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 870	Re: Cannabis in TG Ha, I had the same thing... they wanted to hold me back in kindergarten for being 'too immature' Boredom is the root of immature behavior Eventually I got a supervised test and a little card that had the letter M on it :P ME 1 - SCHOOL 0 ----------------- EDIT ---------------- Go to wiki and read about how IQ is calculated and what it means before pooping out your 'IQ score'. In order for your score to mean anything, we need to know the standard deviation for the test you took! I scored 130 something on the MENSA test, which was equal to 120 something on the stanford-binet, which could equal only 110 something on another test, or maybe 140 something on another... Knowing the test is important! IQ scores use standard deviations to figure out where your intelligence ranks compared to the rest of the population. Each test produces a different standard deviation. __________________ \|TG\|Switch Better known as: That noob who crashed the chopper. That noob who ran over the mine. That noob who TK'd me with a sniper rifle. That noob who hit that APC at 300m with light AT! Our APC...

03-20-2008, 08:07 PM	#19 (permalink)
Dirtboy Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Las Vegas! Age: 24 Posts: 2,657	Re: Cannabis in TG Guys...I am not sure that this is a mature topic for Tactical Gamer. We do have kids that frequent these forums and some of them even look up to you! I do not look down on those who use illegal drugs, it's your choice! But what I am saying is that this is not an appropriate place to discuss it (or at least admit to it). __________________ \|TG-6th\| Dirtboy The Coolest Person EVER! Need an Admin? \| Want to help TG? \| The 6th Devil's Brigade \| My Hero! R.I.P Zac

03-20-2008, 09:42 PM	#24 (permalink)
El_Gringo_Grande Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: OKIE HOMY Age: 39 Posts: 1,805	Re: Cannabis in TG http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:IQ_curve.svg In the linked picture they don't even show anything above 145. I had to take one in college. I had failed my foreign language requirement 3 times in a row. I applied for a waiver and they said I had to get a couple of tests to prove I wasn't just trying to get out of a requirement. My professor paid for it because it cost 180 dollars. To make sure the tests showed I had a problem with foreign languages I kinda scammed it. Well, not really scammed it. I simply didn't put any effort into the questions that where the least bit difficult. So it showed exactly what I wanted it to, I had a very bad short term memory especially with pieces of information that are nonsensical. Exactly what a foreign language appears to be to a new learner. I kinda knew how to do all this because I had taken another IQ test just a few months before as part of a psychological study. And my class that covered psychological testing, including IQ tests, was that semester and I had just given an abbreviated version to another student as part of the course work. Just easing up on certain questions caused me to drop 10 points from the result I had gotten not 5 months before. That is almost a full standard deviation and that is quit a drop. Even after that drop I still don't trust the score because it was way to high. This story is actually kinda tied to the question of the thread. That night I smoked pot for the first time in celebration. I was worried I would not be able to graduate and I ended up getting the waiver in part because of what I had learned in college. __________________ Sen. John McCain (AZ) For President '08 (subject to change without notice and the Fact Tom Coburn supports him makes me queasy. Coburn is a zealot.) --- I’m not racists, I have republican friends. --- "The essence of tyranny is the denial of complexity". -Jacob Burkhardt --- "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" - emerson ---- Ikariam.com Alpha Ciekyios[29:78] > Rock Lobster Ikariam.org Epsilon Hicaios[44:39] > Rocktown \|Sneivios[41:40] > New Atlanta\|Asuios[41:39] > Sea Side Manor

03-21-2008, 05:59 AM	#26 (permalink)
westyfield Join Date: May 2007 Location: England Posts: 1,154	Re: Cannabis in TG I don't, have never, and will never smoke cannabis or normal cigarettes. I just wont. I don't know what my IQ is but I'm sure it's low enough already without me lowering it further. __________________ \|TG-irr\| westyfield Thanks Oldirti for this sig! Xfire: westyfield Ikariam- Westopia, Quosios [18:35] (S). Colonies: Westyville, Nytios [18:29] (M), Westropolis, Tasetia [15:33] (CG). Irregular since Sept 15th, 2007

03-21-2008, 10:12 AM	#28 (permalink)
GlobalWarmin Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Springfield, OH Age: 26 Posts: 575	Re: Cannabis in TG I just have to say, those of you who think you have an IQ over 160 are way wrong. Somehow, though, I'm not surprised that video game playing internet people ridiculously overestimate their own intelligence.

03-21-2008, 10:59 AM	#29 (permalink)
leejo Join Date: Sep 2003 Age: 39 Posts: 7,195	Re: Cannabis in TG Gosh it's so nice of you to pop in and say such nice things. Using my amazingly high IQ and astonishing mental powers, I have come up with this response to your post: WhatEVah I'm not interested in arguing my IQ score with anyone, but I know that when I was 21 I took the test as part of a battery of tests at a hospital, I saw the score, and I had lengthy conversations with Drs. about what the results meant.

03-21-2008, 11:04 AM	#30 (permalink)
Elwenil Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Covington, VA USA Age: 34 Posts: 1,226	Re: Cannabis in TG Well it seems the topic has switched to more to my IQ than the original topic. I only mentioned the IQ thing as a comparison for what my friend's mother told me and the rather radical change that took place over the next decade. I have no proof of his score other than what his mother told me. As for my personal IQ, and the test, I already PM'd Sordavie my little story to answer his comments without drifting the thread since some here have told me I cause that somehow, but anyway here is a severely abbreviated explanation. When I was 16, for various school related reasons, I ended up in court and the judge decided to send me to a hospital for two weeks to run a battery of tests to see if I had a learning disability or could possibly have been crazy or something. I never knew what tests I took, because no one told me what they were called or even when one test started and another began. I did everything from medical scans, bloodwork and all sorts of ridiculous "square block not fit in round hole" type tests as well as a bunch of mathematical, problem solving, and sequence tests. I do remember it mentioned that the IQ test was the same as the one the military used, but that was sort of mentioned in passing and didn't mean much to me. You have to realize that I viewed this experience as though I was imprisoned and was being poked and prodded like I was a freak. Eh, I was 16 and thought I knew everything and was quite the smartass. At any rate I wasn't told anything until I went back to court and the judge was the one who told me what they said my IQ was. The judge said I was fine but commented that I was "eccentric". The records they gave me when I left, a free man no less and not crazy or anything, listed various tests that don't make a lot of sense to me even today and one was listed generically as "Intelligence Quotient Testing - Score 167" and then there was handwritten comments on the doctor's take on my personality and general "smarts". So I may or may not be a "genius", I really don't know. I have never wondered about it and rarely mention it. I do know that I am above average intelligence (not trying to be egotistical or anything) but I don't wave it like a banner or mention it. So I listed the score as a comparison in the discussion and I do not claim that I am smarter than anyone in particular or claim that I am some rocket scientist or some other nonsense. I don't require that particular attention. I can't say exactly what test I was given or how that compares to anyone else and I don't really think much about it since that was over half of my life ago. Who knows if it even applies now, but at the time I was friends with the individual I was talking about at the time, it was fairly new in my mind then. I am not lying about the score I listed, I have no reason to, nor do I really care about the various random sarcastic opinions of people on the Internet, some of whom feel the need to negatively comment on just about everything. I do not lie, and take that very seriously. I did in my younger years but have made a commitment in my life many years ago to make my word worth something, so what I have said is the truth as best I know it. So there you have it, judge as you will since you are going to anyway... __________________ \|TG-X\|Elwenil 10th Tactical Guard Server Rules and SOP \| Kicked? Banned? READ THIS FIRST! Contact an Admin \| Nominate your teammates for a ribbon A vote for Obama is a vote to support terrorists!

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