Opinion article from local paper - Page 3

**Wolfie** · 09-16-2004, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DudeMan

hmmm

im angry...

well if you cant read as to why, i cant help you none

Not getting any?

It hurts to take a piss?

Pissed off because Oprah didn't call you down for a free car?

Why are you so angry all the time Dudeman?

**DudeMan** · 09-16-2004, 08:45 PM

I AM ANGRY AT SPECIFIC TIMES, not all the time... like when some guy posts nothing but sarchasm about another person in order to shut them up.

**CingularDuality** · 09-16-2004, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DudeMan

its the whole culture of people in america arming themselfs and evidentally it seems many of them arming under the guise of putting down a rogue government. yeah right militia thats a good reason.

Might I remind you of the beginning of the second World War? When British troops were forced to train and fight with rifles donated by American citizens because so many Brits thought, "Yeah right, militia, that's a good reason..."

If you don't like our "gun culture" and you choose to ignore history, then I will feel less sympathy when history, as it inevitably does, repeats itself...

**DudeMan** · 09-16-2004, 11:08 PM

actually cingular duality this is where your wrong. we had plenty of rifles for all of our troops, however when the maginot line was penetrated in france and the british expeditionary force was retreating across france follwed by the blitzkrieg warfare the order was given for a general evacuation of troops. the landing craft that were brining the troops back were pleasure craft mixed with navy craft. but the large vessels could not come ashore due to heavy bombardment and waters too shallow. therefore all weapons were left behind, most of the heavy armour trucks jeeps and rifles were left where they fell as thousands of soldiers were prized from the beeches at dunkirk.

that is why we had no rifles to train with.

but sure arm the populus so that you have back up armourments.

**DudeMan** · 09-16-2004, 11:12 PM

oh and just so that you know, in case of confusion we still had enough rifles to arm our defensive troops who were strangely racked up in numbers. the decision was made that we were not about to go back into france until we were ready anyway so the rifles and armour we did have would be used by troops in the defense of the boarders.

dont paint the picture we were defencless and helpless because we were not.

**CingularDuality** · 09-16-2004, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DudeMan

actually cingular duality this is where your wrong. we had plenty of rifles for all of our troops, however when the maginot line was penetrated in france and the british expeditionary force was retreating across france follwed by the blitzkrieg warfare the order was given for a general evacuation of troops. the landing craft that were brining the troops back were pleasure craft mixed with navy craft. but the large vessels could not come ashore due to heavy bombardment and waters too shallow. therefore all weapons were left behind, most of the heavy armour trucks jeeps and rifles were left where they fell as thousands of soldiers were prized from the beeches at dunkirk.

that is why we had no rifles to train with.

but sure arm the populus so that you have back up armourments.

Umm, OK, but how am I wrong? However it happened, your country felt the need to accept rifles from US civilians to arm the British army.

Look, it's not the only argument, but some very respected enemy military leaders have said outright that the United States weren't and will never be invaded due to our "gun culture". Our country is a lot younger than yours and it was founded by civilians that took up arms to stand for what they believed in. It is a part of our culture and I, for one, am damn glad for that.

**DudeMan** · 09-16-2004, 11:24 PM

oh get a grip so was iraq armed to the teeth,

you are not the first superpower and you certainly are not going to be the last.

**CingularDuality** · 09-16-2004, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DudeMan

oh get a grip so was iraq armed to the teeth,

Why do you say this? Someone else said this already. Tempus, I think. When Saddam was in power, firearms ownership was strictly regulated. Only certain people could own any type of gun. The flood of arms from military caches and neighboring countries into the general populace was probably helped along by terrorist factions.

Oh, and lets not forget the fact that the world's fourth largest army mysteriously shrunk when we moved in... All of those guns and uniforms have to be hiding somewhere...

**DudeMan** · 09-17-2004, 08:28 PM

yeah sure what in the same place as all those weapons of mass destruction.

**CingularDuality** · 09-17-2004, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DudeMan

yeah sure what in the same place as all those weapons of mass destruction.

My point was that there's a significant portion of an entire army that is missing. Their equipment is what is being used by these terrorists and insurgents in Iraq. This weaponry was not a result of a liberal gun control policy under Saddam's regime...

**DudeMan** · 09-17-2004, 11:21 PM

AND my point is you know nothing your governemnt isnt telling you, i hae an iraqi work collegue who paints a very different picture to the opne blair and bush paint. and his entire famil were armed with either 9mm pistol or old ww2 stuff with the occaisional ak47.

you believe your reports of these weapons and the size of the army, but then again where are the wmds.

**CingularDuality** · 09-18-2004, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DudeMan

AND my point is you know nothing your governemnt isnt telling you, i hae an iraqi work collegue who paints a very different picture to the opne blair and bush paint. and his entire famil were armed with either 9mm pistol or old ww2 stuff with the occaisional ak47.

you believe your reports of these weapons and the size of the army, but then again where are the wmds.

LOL, I think he may be blowing smoke up your butt... I interview Iraqis quite frequently and they all tell me differently...

**DudeMan** · 09-18-2004, 10:09 AM

yeah sure,

or maybe your blowing smoke up my butt.

i know him a hell of alot better than i know you.

**CingularDuality** · 09-18-2004, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DudeMan

yeah sure,

or maybe your blowing smoke up my butt.

i know him a hell of alot better than i know you.

Maybe. You never know...

**Wolfie** · 09-18-2004, 03:33 PM

Hmmmm,

we have 2 different opinions here about Iraq and its people here.

One from a college student that supposedly has a co-worker who is from Iraq....

and another from a person serving as a border agent whose job is to interview people coming into the United States, some of which are from Iraq....

Who seems more believable?

09-16-2004, 08:45 PM	#32 (permalink)
DudeMan Join Date: May 2003 Location: london England Age: 22 Posts: 3,258	Re: Opinion article from local paper I AM ANGRY AT SPECIFIC TIMES, not all the time... like when some guy posts nothing but sarchasm about another person in order to shut them up. __________________ The Queen "Those who perpetrate these brutal acts against innocent people should know that they will not change our way of life," *Atrocities such as these simply reinforce our sense of community* TheFeniX "Guns don't kill people: effeminate men in green tunics do"

09-16-2004, 11:08 PM	#34 (permalink)
DudeMan Join Date: May 2003 Location: london England Age: 22 Posts: 3,258	Re: Opinion article from local paper actually cingular duality this is where your wrong. we had plenty of rifles for all of our troops, however when the maginot line was penetrated in france and the british expeditionary force was retreating across france follwed by the blitzkrieg warfare the order was given for a general evacuation of troops. the landing craft that were brining the troops back were pleasure craft mixed with navy craft. but the large vessels could not come ashore due to heavy bombardment and waters too shallow. therefore all weapons were left behind, most of the heavy armour trucks jeeps and rifles were left where they fell as thousands of soldiers were prized from the beeches at dunkirk. that is why we had no rifles to train with. but sure arm the populus so that you have back up armourments. __________________ The Queen "Those who perpetrate these brutal acts against innocent people should know that they will not change our way of life," *Atrocities such as these simply reinforce our sense of community* TheFeniX "Guns don't kill people: effeminate men in green tunics do"

09-16-2004, 11:12 PM	#35 (permalink)
DudeMan Join Date: May 2003 Location: london England Age: 22 Posts: 3,258	Re: Opinion article from local paper oh and just so that you know, in case of confusion we still had enough rifles to arm our defensive troops who were strangely racked up in numbers. the decision was made that we were not about to go back into france until we were ready anyway so the rifles and armour we did have would be used by troops in the defense of the boarders. dont paint the picture we were defencless and helpless because we were not. __________________ The Queen "Those who perpetrate these brutal acts against innocent people should know that they will not change our way of life," *Atrocities such as these simply reinforce our sense of community* TheFeniX "Guns don't kill people: effeminate men in green tunics do"

09-16-2004, 11:24 PM	#37 (permalink)
DudeMan Join Date: May 2003 Location: london England Age: 22 Posts: 3,258	Re: Opinion article from local paper oh get a grip so was iraq armed to the teeth, you are not the first superpower and you certainly are not going to be the last. __________________ The Queen "Those who perpetrate these brutal acts against innocent people should know that they will not change our way of life," *Atrocities such as these simply reinforce our sense of community* TheFeniX "Guns don't kill people: effeminate men in green tunics do"

09-17-2004, 08:28 PM	#39 (permalink)
DudeMan Join Date: May 2003 Location: london England Age: 22 Posts: 3,258	Re: Opinion article from local paper yeah sure what in the same place as all those weapons of mass destruction. __________________ The Queen "Those who perpetrate these brutal acts against innocent people should know that they will not change our way of life," *Atrocities such as these simply reinforce our sense of community* TheFeniX "Guns don't kill people: effeminate men in green tunics do"

09-17-2004, 11:21 PM	#41 (permalink)
DudeMan Join Date: May 2003 Location: london England Age: 22 Posts: 3,258	Re: Opinion article from local paper AND my point is you know nothing your governemnt isnt telling you, i hae an iraqi work collegue who paints a very different picture to the opne blair and bush paint. and his entire famil were armed with either 9mm pistol or old ww2 stuff with the occaisional ak47. you believe your reports of these weapons and the size of the army, but then again where are the wmds. __________________ The Queen "Those who perpetrate these brutal acts against innocent people should know that they will not change our way of life," *Atrocities such as these simply reinforce our sense of community* TheFeniX "Guns don't kill people: effeminate men in green tunics do"

09-18-2004, 10:09 AM	#43 (permalink)
DudeMan Join Date: May 2003 Location: london England Age: 22 Posts: 3,258	Re: Opinion article from local paper yeah sure, or maybe your blowing smoke up my butt. i know him a hell of alot better than i know you. __________________ The Queen "Those who perpetrate these brutal acts against innocent people should know that they will not change our way of life," *Atrocities such as these simply reinforce our sense of community* TheFeniX "Guns don't kill people: effeminate men in green tunics do"

09-18-2004, 03:33 PM	#45 (permalink)
Wolfie Join Date: May 2003 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 1,405	Re: Opinion article from local paper Hmmmm, we have 2 different opinions here about Iraq and its people here. One from a college student that supposedly has a co-worker who is from Iraq.... and another from a person serving as a border agent whose job is to interview people coming into the United States, some of which are from Iraq.... Who seems more believable?

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