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Old 04-08-2008, 02:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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50 MILLION Dollar Bill

Zimbabwe released a 25 million and 50 million bank note last week. The 50 million note is worth one US dollar on their black market and would at the time buy three loaf of bread at 16 million each. The inflation rate is around 100,000% and a BILLION note is expected soon.
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Old 04-08-2008, 03:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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lol, fiat currency.

Wiki says the highest printed nominal value is 500 Billion, so Zimbabwe has a bit more to go.

Question: Do the guys printing the money get paid in paper?

I figure in Africa, commerce would centre around barter. Barter is neat because it is inflation-proof.
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Old 04-08-2008, 03:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: 50 MILLION Dollar Bill

The goverment pays it's goverment bills in US dollars and print what they need to make the exchange. Some goverment officials exchange for personal gain at the official exchange rate of 30,000 Zimbabwe to one US dollar for a killing.
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Old 04-08-2008, 04:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: 50 MILLION Dollar Bill

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Barter is neat because it is inflation-proof.
No it's not. If today I would have been willing to sell you my car for 3 chickens, but tomorrow I decide I want 4, you just experienced inflation.
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Old 04-08-2008, 04:16 PM   #5 (permalink)
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And you just experience seller's remorse!

Edit: damn. You said would have been willing. Curse you, subjunctive mood!

Edit redux: btw, exactly what do these chickens do such that they are worth 1/3 of a car? PM me: I might be interested in working something out.
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Old 04-08-2008, 06:13 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 04-08-2008, 06:28 PM   #7 (permalink)
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No it's not. If today I would have been willing to sell you my car for 3 chickens, but tomorrow I decide I want 4, you just experienced inflation.
Thats not inflation... inflation happens to a currency as its value goes down because its volume goes up or other such things happen that effect only the currency but not what is bought with it.

Changes in barter values are just a matter of supply and demand.

Inflation happens ON TOP OF supply and demand.
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Old 04-08-2008, 06:43 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I don't think that's quite accurate, Switch. Inflation is just a fancy word used to describe the impact of supply and demand on the value of a currency instead of on the value of a good. But its really the same process at work either way.
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Old 04-09-2008, 06:42 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I've been told in other threads that inflation is good, that it means you don't have a shortage of currency as the population increases. So Zimbabwe is all set for population growth!
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Old 04-09-2008, 06:59 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I agree that moderate inflation is good. High inflation is still better than moderate deflation. So yeah, inflation is very good insofar as we need to stay well away from deflation.

High inflation is not so good. It stifles capital investment and encourages converting cash into commodities like gold or oil or bullets.
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Old 04-09-2008, 07:26 PM   #11 (permalink)
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You need just enough inflation to encourage investment. I hear the sweet spot is around 2%.
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Old 04-09-2008, 08:51 PM   #12 (permalink)
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You need just enough inflation to encourage investment. I hear the sweet spot is around 2%.
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