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xTYBALTx · 05-01-2008, 08:40 PM

In northeast Italy, people scarf down horse tartar like it's their job.

It's delicious.

ScratchMonkey · 05-02-2008, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tempus

Where are you eating at? I haven't been to a restaurant ever where I can't get a steak medium-rare. If you're talking hamburger, that's a different story, and yes, it IS dangerous to eat that stuff anything rarer than medium.

Due to a pronounced overbite, I find it difficult to eat any cut of unground meat, so I'm mostly limited to hamburger and hotdogs. Does hamburger remain dangerous if it's fresh-ground?

One important reason I'll order slightly rare is because I want to eat the burger at home, and by the time I get there and get settled in to eat, it's lost a lot of heat, so I want to nuke it. So I want a little "head room" of rawness so I don't end up with an overdone meat brick.

**CingularDuality** · 05-02-2008, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ScratchMonkey

Does hamburger remain dangerous if it's fresh-ground?

Less so... The main danger in hamburger comes from cross contamination. Hamburger is made from all the trimmings, so when you get hamburger that was ground at a large butcher, there's plenty of cross contamination.

Scratch, if ground meat is a good chunk of your diet, buy it at a store that has a butcher. Pick a cut you like and ask the butcher to grind it for you (better yet, buy a meat grinder!). Keep in mind that you'll want a cut that is less lean than you would normally buy, as the fat is important when it comes to binding the ground meat together.

Of course, there will be times that you won't want the ground meat to stick together. I eat about twice a month at a BBQ place that puts a big ol' pile of ground smoked brisket on top of a huge baked potato with butter, cheese and sour cream. Add a couple of tablespoons of their BBQ sauce and you have a phenomenal culinary delight for $6. If it wasn't such an assembly line type of place, I'd ask if they had a piece of meat that was less done to grind up for my 'tater...

xTYBALTx · 05-02-2008, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ScratchMonkey

Does hamburger remain dangerous if it's fresh-ground?

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Originally Posted by WIKI

Steak tartare is a meat dish made from finely chopped or ground raw beef or horse meat. Tartare can also be made by thinly slicing a high grade of meat such as strip steak, marinating it in wine or other spirits and spiced to taste, and then chilled...

In some countries, health concerns have reduced the popularity of this meat dish because of the danger of contamination by bacteria and parasites. In countries with high hygiene standards, this is not a concern and the dish remains popular...

The Mexican version of steak tartare typically marinates the meat in lime juice, in the manner of ceviche, which has the effect of disinfecting the meat to a certain extent. It is also often consumed, especially in Russia, with vodka, which may have a similar effect...

Steak tartare is now regarded as a gourmet dish. It is especially popular in Belgium, the Netherlands, France, Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic (Tatarák) and Switzerland...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak_tartare

Anecdotally, I know a person in the US who eats completely raw high grade ground beef. He is known to return steaks at restaurants - sometimes more than once - because the chefs cook the meat too much for his tastes.

Also, like I said earlier, people in Europe scarf down diced and ground meat like it's nothing.

**CingularDuality** · 05-02-2008, 10:03 PM

I eat raw ground beef almost every time I make hamburger patties! It's yummy!

C'mon, people. Discover your primal side!

ScratchMonkey · 05-03-2008, 12:42 AM

I love carpaccio, a relative of steak tartare.

Anyone seen the hilarious Mr Bean episode (made before his movies) in which he doesn't know what steak tartare is, orders it, then is completely disgusted and must figure out how to dispose of it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...rn_of_Mr._Bean

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