Fenian420

http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7462


Just trying to see the opinions of the people here on what's in the videos (especially McCain supporters). Each video is less than 4 minutes I think, doesnt take much time to watch (and besides if your scrolling through the forums in the general discussion you got spare time anyways).


Discuss and light up the flames.

Ferris Bueller

Sandbox please.

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TheSkudDestroyer

Why is this even a presidential issue?

Also - Sandbox.

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Its a presidential issue because the federal government has been overstepping its bounds at the expense of individuals who have done nothing wrong except breaking an arbitrary federal law that in some cases does not even coincide with state law -- making federal involvement illegal in some instances.

Also its a very good litmus test for check to see which candidates bother to acknowledge reality despite the party line.

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Fenian420

My bad about the wrong forum section, but yeah the Feds have done illegal searches and raids on Medical Weed Users who had all the forms signed out and all of that saying that they were allowed to grow and smoke weed to help them deal with pain and whatever else they might have.

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/a...ogues_8707.php

Taip3n

I say we all go to Amsterdam and think about it.

randomuser83

I second that notion because they have legal tools to aid us in the conversation. Purely intellectual of course.

ScratchMonkey

But how do they feel about legalizing beer? (For medical purposes only, of course)

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ScratchMonkey

From Obama's speech in Germany:

I guess one could infer from that how he feels about opiates. (Which I think should also be legalized.)

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Fenian420

I'm not exactly sure how you see him relating that to opiate based drug legalization (which is legal.. Vicodin, Oxys), actually not really seeing any connection between anything with the thread and what you've posted..? (Explanation or anything?)

ScratchMonkey

He lists a bunch of "bad things" that have global sources, and in the middle of his list is heroin.

And I want beer to live under the same rules as MJ and opiates (including heroin). In my experience, people are a lot more obnoxious under the influence of beer than they are under the other two. I don't care if you die using it. But don't start a drunken fight with your girlfriend out in the street in front of my house. Or anywhere else, for that matter.

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Fenian420

Ah yea, I feel you there, alcohol definitely does have a lot more negatives caused from it than weed does... Wouldn't say the same about heroin though.. Heroins a bit over the line IMO, would rather have cocaine legalized requiring you to get stamps or something and receiving in small quantities than heroin.

But yeah if you compare booze and weed then the legality of it seem to be really off.

Buckets

You'll have to pry my beer from my cold, dead hands!

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ScratchMonkey

Why do you object to heroin? (Were you aware that the name "heroin" was a Bayer trademark? Check out the pictures of product packages in the Wikipedia article.)

http://www.drugpolicy.org/drugbydrug/heroin/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroin

The only problem I see with cocaine is paranoia-induced violence. Similar to what happens to some beer drinkers. So require that cocaine and beer users check in to a lock-up before ingesting, so that they're not risking others.

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Fenian420

Just that IVing heroin is most common way used to get the feelings of heroin into the body and a simple bubble could kill you, although it would be somewhat good to get heroin somewhat legalized since their is a lot of dirty heroin being made, would be guessing it'd become a lot cleaner once it was legalized in some sort of way.