Re: The Sarah Palin corner of the Sandbox!

**AMosely** · 09-23-2008, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by WhiskeySix

You know why they're not letting the media corner her in a press-conference: nothing to gain, everything to loose.

I don't agree with it (or much else of the way national campaigns run), but I totally understand it.

I understand it as well, but with six weeks left Palin's got to start standing on her own two feet a little more. That was my point - between the debate rules and the media blackout, it's like they think they can control the speed and pitch of this race in terms of Palin. I don't think that sounds like a public candidate to me.

**Shottglass628** · 09-23-2008, 06:04 PM

She is doing rallies by herself.

Palin gets 60,000 in Florida and Mr. "57 States" gets a paltry 6,000 today. Biden is out there imploding and it's net even October yet. The old Clintonistas are jumping off of Barry's sinking ship and Dem insiders are freaking out over his slippage with the hillarygals and the union vote. All this lofty "nuanced" discussion about access and experience is pointless. Hillary was right; he can't deliver the battleground states and the dem's experiment in an "affirmitive action" candidate is gonna be a disaster. You guys chatter about Sarah Palin while the "house of cards" campaign of Barry's is blowing apart.

**Kerostasis** · 09-23-2008, 06:33 PM

Shotglass makes a good point. Palin isn't granting media-controlled interviews, but it's not as if she's hiding behind a curtain. She's out on the campaign trail running rallies and making speeches, just like Biden is. There's some questions I'd like to see a journalist ask her before this is done, but there's some questions I'd like to see a journalist ask Obama that never get asked either. In the mean time I can't blame her much for being distrustful of the media.

**Gambit7** · 09-23-2008, 06:43 PM

Man 'o man the spin I'm seeing lately in this thread is just LoLLifying. (hmm, that should be a word)

**Shottglass628** · 09-23-2008, 07:05 PM

Nov. 4th around midnight will be "Lollifying". Those red states will have been manipulated by the eeevil Republicans again. The "bitter clingers" will have fallen for the race baiting, scare mongering, evil "Rovian" Republican attack machine. If only those mouth breathing neanderthals would open their eyes and see the "light-worker" as their Obamasiah and believe in "hope" and "change" (as written by Axelrod and read off of teleprompters in small venues to dwindling crowds).

When the game is up around midnight and the serial-autobiographer and all his Marxism is rejected it'll be like Alderaan blowing up. Poor Obi_Wan will have to rub his temples in agony. I can just hear the shrieking and accusations now. Obama-wan's internal polling (kinda like the force eh?) already show his "destiny" and that's why you're gonna see some dysfunction among him and his minions. I would warn the lefties to not invest too much emotion on Nov. 4th. The media has his campaign on life support but a lot of the Dem strategists already have seen the data and know it's a done deal. Pity.

**TheFatKidDeath** · 09-23-2008, 07:05 PM

It's telling that Palin's political handlers are keeping her even from the mainstream press. She hasn't even appeared on any of the Sunday morning talk shows which are hardly a bastion of hard ball questions. Yes, we all have specific examples of George S., Tom Brokaw, Tim Russell, asking those uncomfortable questions but by and large there is a reason that politicans appears on these shows: they know it's a safe place to broadcast their message and the moderator won't bring up uncomfortable facts. If she can't handle these rather politican friendly forums than she knows less then we thought.

No accident that Palin is being kept isolated from even the most friendly press. If I was handling the campaign I certainly would react in the same manner. Why would I want to expose my under qualified candidate to an environment where she can be taken off message?

**Gambit7** · 09-23-2008, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by Shottglass628

Nov. 4th around midnight will be "Lollifying". Those red states will have been manipulated by the eeevil Republicans again. The "bitter clingers" will have fallen for the race baiting, scare mongering, evil "Rovian" Republican attack machine. If only those mouth breathing neanderthals would open their eyes and see the "light-worker" as their Obamasiah and believe in "hope" and "change" (as written by Axelrod and read off of teleprompters in small venues to dwindling crowds).

When the game is up around midnight and the serial-autobiographer and all his Marxism is rejected it'll be like Alderaan blowing up. Poor Obi_Wan will have to rub his temples in agony. I can just hear the shrieking and accusations now. Obama-wan's internal polling (kinda like the force eh?) already show his "destiny" and that's why you're gonna see some dysfunction among him and his minions. I would warn the lefties to not invest too much emotion on Nov. 4th. The media has his campaign on life support but a lot of the Dem strategists already have seen the data and know it's a done deal. Pity.

So I take it you're on the Pontius Pilate/Galactic Empire side of things eh?
tisk tisk, indeed change is too scary for some people I guess...

-Just remember what happened to Darth and his Emperor and ultimately the Roman Empire

**gunjunkie** · 09-23-2008, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Shottglass628

If only those mouth breathing neanderthals would open their eyes and see the "light-worker" as their Obamasiah and believe in "hope" and "change" (as written by Axelrod and read off of teleprompters in small venues to dwindling crowds).

I wouldn't go on about teleprompters if I was you. Palin is quite possibly the worst public speaker I've ever seen, you could almost see the guys with the big "Applause" signs at the republican convention. She makes old school Apartheid era mouth-breathers seem professional.

**Shottglass628** · 09-23-2008, 07:34 PM

Don't forget what happened to Lenin or Maximilien Robespierre. "Change" has a way of "eating it's children". Seems to me the left is hungry for change. Always has been. problem is when you look at the "change" it is mostly free stuff. Free college, free health care, free day care ect. Seems hunger for change is hunger for free stuff and wealth redistribution. Nothing changes with the left. Obambi is just the same old lefty "whine" it's just in a new bottle.

People aren't fainting anymore and the magic is not coming back. Better luck in 2012.

**Shottglass628** · 09-23-2008, 07:49 PM

Guys, enough about Sarah, really. I understand she makes "castratii" liberal guys uneasy. She is a better snowmobile rider and unlike most liberal guys, she can shoot a moose, making her more of a "man". Awkward huh?

This election was decided by the superdelegates in the dem party when they endorsed Barry even though their own states overwhelmingly went for Hill. (Kennedy for example) They set you up for failure, and Barry finished the deal when he dropped change as a viable theme and went with the gaffe machine known as Biden. Mccain just put the "two to the head" with his Palin pick.

You will realize this on Nov 5 and if you still don't understand it; all the columnists will explain it to you.

What we need to talk about now is all the bad blood between the titular leader of the Dem party on Nov 5th (Hillary) and the democrat leadership aka superdelagates. This is a serious challenge to what will be a terribly dysfuntional and stunned party. That is what serious dem strategist are worrying about now. Not this stillborn Obama campaign.

**gunjunkie** · 09-23-2008, 07:59 PM

So how much does the RNC pay you to shill on a gaming forum? Or are you just that obsessed with the possibility of having a black man for a president?

**Shottglass628** · 09-23-2008, 08:18 PM

Always the dimmies bringing up race. I proudly served under Gen. Colin Powell and would proudly vote for him as POTUS.

The problem is you guys have is that you found an unqualified street-agitator who had Chicago machine pedaled himself into a state seat and then got propelled into the U.S. senate by the Chicago Tribune. An extreme makeover later there is this Trans-racial figure, a uniter, and reformer. He is none of these three and that is the problem. He is your guy and you have to back him but be honest about who he is.

Problem really is that he peaked too early. Had the election been in July.. no problem.
The rest is academic really. What we need to talk about is how to get the Democrat party out of the hands of the far left. This move-on, daily Kos stuff is not gonna win for you guys. I remember when Leiberman and Zel Miller were proud dems. My parents too. Problem is that the party left them, not the opposite.

On the upside.. the Obamasiah can write his THIRD autobiography after the race.( I mean campaign.. you dimmies will think that is a racial slur) THREE autobios by age 45?? now THAT's hubris..

**gunjunkie** · 09-23-2008, 09:37 PM

Heh, if you had some context, you'd know I'm not a Democrat. Hell, I'm not even a citizen. I just see the flaws on both sides. It's an interesting election. Both sides have potentially dramatic knock on effects for the world situation. I just think the debate should be about McCain and Obama, not Palin. She's really not very inspiring at all.

**Shottglass628** · 09-23-2008, 09:55 PM

You miss the point. This election is over. There is little point in a debate at all. Whether she inspires you or not is beyond irrelevent. She has inspired a lot of conservative and independent women and jazzed up the base. In the echo chamber of the left and the media they cannot guage some of the other indicators. Paid strategists that aren't partisan see the writing on the wall. I'll put it in my column sometime before Nov. 4th, just to be on the record.

**WhiskeySix** · 09-23-2008, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by Shottglass628

This election is over.

Are you joking?

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