Re: The Sarah Palin corner of the Sandbox!

**Steeler** · 09-24-2008, 10:08 AM

It has also attracted a troll.

**Shottglass628** · 09-24-2008, 10:25 AM

I would counter that it's a Troll thread.

It attracted some light.

Ponder that.

Suggested refresher reading:

Sandbox Etiquette - REQUIRED READING

**AMosely** · 09-24-2008, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by Shottglass628

You miss the point. This election is over. There is little point in a debate at all. Whether she inspires you or not is beyond irrelevent. She has inspired a lot of conservative and independent women and jazzed up the base. In the echo chamber of the left and the media they cannot guage some of the other indicators. Paid strategists that aren't partisan see the writing on the wall. I'll put it in my column sometime before Nov. 4th, just to be on the record.

The only person who's ever 'jazzed up the base' is Richard Simmons. Put that in your column and smoke it.

**Shottglass628** · 09-24-2008, 10:55 AM

snyde.

On a lighter note guys;

The "Obama Campaign" (prestigious sounding isn't it?)

Has brought all of the Dakota staff here to Wisconsin to help out in a suddenly "in play" blue state. (The Dakotas aren't polling favorably... go figure)

I have to take leave from my dilligent work here at TG and see if some canvassing might land a position with these newfound emergency efforts. The Obama folks are flush with cash and need help reaching out to the more rural counties of SE Wisconsin. A cynical calling to be sure but a mortgage has to be paid. I'll check back with you all and keep you updated in a few days.

**Kerostasis** · 09-24-2008, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by Shottglass628

Lock it up please.

It has been nothing but a lewd sexist hate fest charading under the pretext of "qualification" with tiresome questions about "access".

A pointless thread.

I double dog dare you to lock it up.

Please do the right thing and lock it up.

I have drawn the ire of the Obamabots. I regret to have troubled the echo-chamber that you all exist in. Sorry to rain on your parade of Palin hate. I'll probably even be banned from here. I got an infraction for chiding a person who accused me of being a racist by mentioning "dimmies".

I think the Nuremburg comparison is all the more appropriate. Now there is a brownshirt element to the lefty fascism this place smacks of.

I'm not sorry to rain on your little parade here. Ban me now please. You're intolerance and guile betray you. In contrast to the filth that this thread has suggested that I would be infracted for a "dimmie" comment is offensive.

Spare me.....

I'm a McCainbot and even I'm getting sick of you. It was refreshing for a post or two, but seriously, learn when to stop. You don't have to be McCain's crusader through imagined horrors of liberal websites -- this is actually a place for balanced and intelligent discussion, something you no longer seem to be interested in adding to. Get the trolling out of your system somewhere else, and then come back here when you have actual information to share.

**Shottglass628** · 09-24-2008, 02:26 PM

"Fact is, this is a tits n' arse racial/gender specific pic on the part of McCain. PERIOD"-Gambit7

That the balanced and intelligent discussion I'm not interested in? Please......

What has happened here is that this has been the political equivalent of a RickRoll.

I'll let you guys get back to talking about Palin. It's the equivalent of chatter about untied shoelaces moments before your teeth get knocked out by the sidewalk. Most of the sharp operatives know the score and now the puzzle is reading the shifts of gravity and power in both parties and how to access them during transition.

**Kerostasis** · 09-24-2008, 02:42 PM

When faced with debate that doesn't measure up to standard, you can do your best to bring the level of conversation up, or you can bring yourself down to join it. Which one are you going to choose?

**Shottglass628** · 09-24-2008, 02:48 PM

Good point.

Let us go forward from here and make an effort to elevate this conversation.

My apologies to any that I might have offended.

Sincerely,
Shottglass

**AMosely** · 09-24-2008, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by Shottglass628

Most of the sharp operatives know the score and now the puzzle is reading the shifts of gravity and power in both parties and how to access them during transition.

I don't know the score. I guess I'm not a sharp operative. Can you tell me the score, or are only sharp operatives allowed to know that?

And do you mean 'assess' or 'access.' If 'access,' can you also tell me how to access shifts of gravity and power? That sounds totally awesome!

**Shottglass628** · 09-24-2008, 03:09 PM

Access...

Consider what lengths individuals or groups go through for "access" to the politics. That's what all the lobbying and so much of the donations game is about. Access and influence is the shadow power and it is measured in cash. That's an oversimplification but consider the lobbying ties with Mr. Mccains advisors and the Rezko stuff that Mr. Obama has had to deal with. From the inside it gets soulless really fast. Consider the record fund raising of this cycle. There is where we operatives feed. Seminar calling for the left, ect. Getting the Soros money has been VERY easy. A week later it's an NRA orgy of cash. If one group falters the cash dries up. So politics is a business for a much larger group of Americans than people realize.

Take a moment to really think about lobbying, access and the cash.

Ps. Amosely; I perused some of your postings and you seem pretty sharp and analytical. I am just too cynical.

**AMosely** · 09-24-2008, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Shottglass628

Access...

politics is a business for a much larger group of Americans than people realize.

Take a moment to really think about lobbying, access and the cash.

Understood - the access. American government and the political system that feeds it is corrupt. McCain and Obama used to stand up against it, but now they're running for president and the game has changed. What can we do? Vote green or independent, don't donate to or support the mainstream parties or the larger companies who lobby them. Good luck with all that, though, because the vast majority of Americans are not only uninformed, but choose political sides based on first appearances and trivial wedge issues.

But let's get back to talking about that free wheelin', hockey-mom gun-totin' Palin, because I'm sure she's the answer to all of this hipocracy.

**Rincewind** · 09-25-2008, 11:47 AM

New Palin interview <gasp>

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4476649n

0.o ...wow...

**Gambit7** · 09-25-2008, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Rincewind

New Palin interview <gasp>

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4476649n

0.o ...wow...

-on evidence of McCain's "Maverickness"

"I'llll try to find ya some and I'll bring em to ya"

**Rincewind** · 09-25-2008, 12:28 PM

Oh, jeez. Looks like McCain is trying to shelter Palin from the upcoming veep debate:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMQxDprCVbE[/media]

Does she need more time to cram?

**Beatnik** · 09-25-2008, 09:46 PM

McCain's campaign is seemingly more in a tailspin than the economy.

Seriously, what the hell? How can any sane person defend this absurdity? It boggles the mind.

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