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10-07-2003, 11:02 AM

recently.... TV shows.....

family guy, simpsons, stargate sg1, star trek (all) BoB, futurama, charmed, buffy... anything leagal and BIG... since I have there on VHS from TV, I consider a digital copy fair use for me as I will not be selling or distributing tem... just sucking up Comcasts bandwidth.......

**Wyzcrak** · 10-07-2003, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DdogG

I consider a digital copy fair use for me

I'm pretty sure you'd have quite the difficult time convincing any judge that what you're doing is legal. However, I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to this stuff, so take that observation with a grain of salt.

Wyzcrak

dragon · 10-07-2003, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DdogG

recently.... TV shows.....

family guy, simpsons, stargate sg1, star trek (all) BoB, futurama, charmed, buffy... anything leagal and BIG... since I have there on VHS from TV, I consider a digital copy fair use for me as I will not be selling or distributing tem... just sucking up Comcasts bandwidth.......

Actually read the law.

"as long as you own a "legal" (VHS from TV included) copy then you can make a dup"

since you pay for cable then you can legally make a VHS. then you have a legal copy and you are more then welcome to make a Digital copy

**Wyzcrak** · 10-07-2003, 11:43 AM

But he (and me, and you, and everyone else that does it) isn't making dups? He's taking another person's dup. Isn't that significant?

Of course I'm just playing devil's advocate here, not claiming to know the right answer. If we prove this to be legal, you won't see me upset.

Wyzcrak

dragon · 10-07-2003, 11:51 AM

but if they come in his house and find them how can they proove he didn't "make" the dup?

Emanon · 10-07-2003, 11:54 AM

When your not home share all your files on ODC and Que a Crap load of movies and such in 1 day just leaving my comp on not even trying i uploaded 2 gigs and downloaded i believe 5.

**Wyzcrak** · 10-07-2003, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragon

but if they come in his house and find them how can they proove he didn't "make" the dup?

Your theory removes the possibility that he'll be caught, not the possiblity that what he's doing is illegal. FWIW, there is a difference, right?

Wyzcrak

dragon · 10-07-2003, 12:02 PM

that is why you turn uploads off or set bandwidth to very small so it says it will take forever and they will cancel and you should get 0 uploads

dragon · 10-07-2003, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyzcrak

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragon

but if they come in his house and find them how can they proove he didn't "make" the dup?

Your theory removes the possibility that he'll be caught, not the possiblity that what he's doing is illegal. FWIW, there is a difference, right?

Wyzcrak

By definition yes there is a diffrence. But like I said many many times there are loop holes in the rules and laws find them and you can't loss

**Wyzcrak** · 10-07-2003, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragon

But like I said many many times there are loop holes in the rules and laws find them and you can't loss

heh, true enough. Shheeeesh all you have to do is look at Prox's Bono post.

Wyzcrak

**_Ender_** · 10-07-2003, 12:45 PM

Copyright laws on TV shows is a gray area anyway.

11-04-2003, 11:19 AM

bumpage for update.......

well, I transferred (upload and download combined) (***download was a whopping 954 gigs, upload was 59 gigs.***) a total of 1013 gigabytes in the month of october. 11 more would have made a nice round terabyte. I hope whoever is in charge of those letters chokes on his doughnut, spews his coffee, and wets his pants when he sees that number. Now to call them and tell them to turn my cable off in a week. F***ers.........

Eclipse · 11-04-2003, 12:00 PM

Holy sh*t ddog, thats quite a lot of transfering

**Tempus** · 11-04-2003, 12:41 PM

Ok, someone please do the math. That's how many KB/sec full time 24/7?

11-04-2003, 12:54 PM

954 gigs over 31 days = 30 gigs a day
30 gigs over 24 hours = 1.2 gigs an hour
1.2 gigs over 60 minutes = 20 megs a minute (1.2 gigs x 1024 **convert to megs**)
20 megs over 60 seconds = 341kbps (20 megs x 1024 **convert to kilo**)

with a 3.0+ megaBIT (mbps) connection..... yes, it was 24/7 full time to get that download. my download ranged from 182kBps to 567kBps with an overall average of 344kBps.

the kBps is kiloBYTES per second as windows reads it..... kiloBITS per second is 2730kbps. just a hair below what comcast quotes.

to convert kilobits and kilobytes, you must multiply the number windows gives you (which is kiloBYTES) by 8 which will give you kiloBITS (which is how ISP's rate thier speeds.)

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10-07-2003, 11:02 AM	#16 (permalink)
Guest Posts: n/a	recently.... TV shows..... family guy, simpsons, stargate sg1, star trek (all) BoB, futurama, charmed, buffy... anything leagal and BIG... since I have there on VHS from TV, I consider a digital copy fair use for me as I will not be selling or distributing tem... just sucking up Comcasts bandwidth.......

10-07-2003, 11:43 AM	#19 (permalink)
Wyzcrak Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,138	But he (and me, and you, and everyone else that does it) isn't making dups? He's taking another person's dup. Isn't that significant? Of course I'm just playing devil's advocate here, not claiming to know the right answer. If we prove this to be legal, you won't see me upset. Wyzcrak

10-07-2003, 11:54 AM	#21 (permalink)
Emanon Banned Join Date: May 2003 Age: 25 Posts: 1,249	When your not home share all your files on ODC and Que a Crap load of movies and such in 1 day just leaving my comp on not even trying i uploaded 2 gigs and downloaded i believe 5.

10-07-2003, 12:45 PM	#26 (permalink)
_Ender_ Join Date: May 2003 Location: I am lost, if you know where I am then please feel free to tell me. Age: 29 Posts: 2,048	Copyright laws on TV shows is a gray area anyway.

11-04-2003, 11:19 AM	#27 (permalink)
Guest Posts: n/a	bumpage for update....... well, I transferred (upload and download combined) (*download was a whopping 954 gigs, upload was 59 gigs.) a total of 1013 gigabytes in the month of october. 11 more would have made a nice round terabyte. I hope whoever is in charge of those letters chokes on his doughnut, spews his coffee, and wets his pants when he sees that number. Now to call them and tell them to turn my cable off in a week. F**ers.........

11-04-2003, 12:54 PM	#30 (permalink)
Guest Posts: n/a	954 gigs over 31 days = 30 gigs a day 30 gigs over 24 hours = 1.2 gigs an hour 1.2 gigs over 60 minutes = 20 megs a minute (1.2 gigs x 1024 convert to megs) 20 megs over 60 seconds = 341kbps (20 megs x 1024 convert to kilo) with a 3.0+ megaBIT (mbps) connection..... yes, it was 24/7 full time to get that download. my download ranged from 182kBps to 567kBps with an overall average of 344kBps. the kBps is kiloBYTES per second as windows reads it..... kiloBITS per second is 2730kbps. just a hair below what comcast quotes. to convert kilobits and kilobytes, you must multiply the number windows gives you (which is kiloBYTES) by 8 which will give you kiloBITS (which is how ISP's rate thier speeds.)

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