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05-11-2009, 07:35 PM #46
Re: The argument against marijuana, and other drugs legalization
This is already happening with Methadone clinics all over the country. Heroine addicts go there for help with getting off heroin. The default program is an incredibly long 2 years to "ween" off heroin. This is enough time to get completely addicted to methadone, so most people stay on it for many years to life. The clinics are privately owned so there is no incentive to actually get the addicts to quit. To add insult methadone is much harder to kick then heroin. The government doesn't care as long as the clinics are keeping the dope fiends from robbing old ladies. And Elliy Libby has a very strong lobby. Legal opioid addiction for $250 a month on main street. For a good time google methadone clinic and your zip.

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05-11-2009, 07:39 PM #47
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07-07-2009, 03:01 AM #48
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07-07-2009, 09:49 AM #49
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07-12-2009, 05:58 PM #50
Re: The argument against marijuana, and other drugs legalization
A heads up for anyone who didn't get a chance to view this thread or the video that got removed from the site it was being hosted on...
Thread
The Union: The business behind getting high(1 hour and 44 miniutes long)
More Interesting Docu/Vidoe's
Sam Mellace has had a couple interviews about his Medical Marijuana grow operation. Funny comment from one his interviews "you cant OD from it(marijuana) its impossible your not going to die from it that's not going to happen I've tried"
Two Video interviews worth watching.
B.C.'s medicinal marijuana king.
National Geographic - Marijuana Nation(If you don't watch the full thing just watch this part)
Medical Cannabis Wiki
The evidence is so heavy on the need to legalize Marijuana for medical purposes. It depresses me to think that the US may never smarten up and look at the big picture.







When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace. ~ Jimi Hendrix
And isn't it a bad thing to be deceived about the truth, and a good thing to know what the truth is? For I assume that by knowing the truth you mean knowing things as they really are. ~ Plato
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07-12-2009, 06:30 PM #51
Re: The argument against marijuana, and other drugs legalization
What's the main benefit of smoking weed for "medicinal purposes"? Cheaper than opiate painkillers, less addictive?
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07-12-2009, 06:51 PM #52
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Re: The argument against marijuana, and other drugs legalization
I've read about two main benefits. I don't think it' s a powerful general painkiller. It's effective on specific types of pain. But it's a powerful antiemetic, useful for treating the nausea of chemotherapy patients. And it reduces eye pressure in Glaucoma patients.
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07-12-2009, 07:21 PM #53
Re: The argument against marijuana, and other drugs legalization
From the wiki above
Recent studies:
Alzheimer's
Prevents formation of "Alzheimer plaques"
Arthritis
Analgesic, antiinflammatory
Asthma
Opens up airways in lungs
Brain Cancer
Reduces tumors, kills cancer cells
Breast Cancer
Stops cancer from spreading
Depression
Brightens mood
Glaucoma
Reduces eye pressure
Head Injuries
Neuroprotective properties, speeds recovery time
HIV
Reduces neuropathic pain, improves appetite and sleep
Hypertension
Lowers blood pressure
Lung Cancer
Reduces tumors, slows cancer growth
Pain
Non-opiate, non-addictive pain killer
A.D.D.
Regulates the effects of A.D.D.
OR take a look at the Partial list of clinical applications in the Medical cannabis wiki.
I also have a buddy in real life that takes it for his Crohns Disease and it works wonders also form wiki:
"Preliminary findings indicate that cannabis-based drugs could prove useful in treating Inflammatory Bowel Disease (consisting of Crohn's Disease and Ulcerative Colitis)"
Ive got one word for you... Butter...







When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace. ~ Jimi Hendrix
And isn't it a bad thing to be deceived about the truth, and a good thing to know what the truth is? For I assume that by knowing the truth you mean knowing things as they really are. ~ Plato
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07-12-2009, 07:27 PM #54
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07-12-2009, 07:55 PM #55
Re: The argument against marijuana, and other drugs legalization
Seriously? That seems nonsensical that inhaling smoke could have beneficial effects.Lung Cancer
Reduces tumors, slows cancer growth
My pop had cancer. The chemo laid him down bad. His remedy was to basically lie down in the guest bathroom's bathtub. It was cool and quiet there, and conveniently close to the toilet during his frequent vomiting....useful for treating the nausea of chemotherapy patients...--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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07-12-2009, 08:39 PM #56
Re: The argument against marijuana, and other drugs legalization
Hah those 2 must need revising lol ya they do seem a bit funky. But I still do stand by my opinions. The evidence is too great to deny the benefit medical marijuana would have.








When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace. ~ Jimi Hendrix
And isn't it a bad thing to be deceived about the truth, and a good thing to know what the truth is? For I assume that by knowing the truth you mean knowing things as they really are. ~ Plato
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07-13-2009, 01:01 PM #57
Re: The argument against marijuana, and other drugs legalization
I partake in Mary-Jane as an occasional pass-time and my GF told me about a study (3rd hand source with no links unfortunately) saying a 'joint' of equal size to a cigarette has the same harmful effects when inhaled.
So I stopped inhaling and started munching.
I exercise my free-will and understand that there is a certain amount of 'clinical ambiguity' surrounding its use but I have made my choice with regards to my life-style and as such only I can be blamed if there are undesirable effects to contend with later on.









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07-13-2009, 01:25 PM #58
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This is merely the delivery method of getting the medicine into your body. They're better and safer delivery methods to injest marijuana including:Seriously? That seems nonsensical that inhaling smoke could have beneficial effects.
1) Vaporizer: used to filter out many of the more harmful chemicals\substances that can grow on marijuana, or are a byproduct of its unregulated/tainted supply chain. It's still smoke but less harmful.
2) Eating/drinking consumption. You can make many food and drinks using marijuana. It is digested like normal food just takes longer to activate than inhaling the smoke. This is the safer method, but still has the problems as above depending on the purity.
3) Pill form. This contains the active ingredient THC, and usually the purest form. You can get the just the plain THC pill, and I believe there is a pharmaceutical brand marketed under "Marinol' using this. I don't know if they're additional chemicals added to this brand, or they just engineered it to mimic the cannabinoids in THC (pot) without actually using the prohibited substance THC.
Keep in mind cannabis was extensively used as a medicine in the late 19th/early 20th century (and likely long before that) before the prohibition era came around in the 30s. I am against using opiate based painkillers except in situations where they really are needed. Cannabis should be used in its rightful place as a safer, non-addictive painkiller for those that can benefit from it.
He could have likely benefited from medical marijuana. I am sorry this was\is not available to him.My pop had cancer. The chemo laid him down bad. His remedy was to basically lie down in the guest bathroom's bathtub. It was cool and quiet there, and conveniently close to the toilet during his frequent vomiting.Last edited by aeroripper; 07-13-2009 at 01:48 PM. Reason: refinement
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07-14-2009, 03:09 AM #59
Re: The argument against marijuana, and other drugs legalization
Greg Gutfield of Red Eye interviewed on Reason TV:
http://reason.tv/video/show/784.html
Very entertaining.Dude, seriously, WHAT handkerchief?
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07-14-2009, 12:07 PM #60
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Last edited by Extinct; 07-14-2009 at 12:09 PM. Reason: Neverming, thats what google is for.








When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace. ~ Jimi Hendrix
And isn't it a bad thing to be deceived about the truth, and a good thing to know what the truth is? For I assume that by knowing the truth you mean knowing things as they really are. ~ Plato
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