Piracy

**El_Gringo_Grande** · 03-02-2010 12:54 PM

Another wonderful thing that will make piracy much more attractive.

Starting in 2013 all bluray (and maybe dvd but I am not sure) will remove the "analog hole". This means that every piece of equipment that those players connect to must support the HDMI security stuff.

So, have an old TV you want to watch your content on? Sorry, can't do it. Have an old receiver that you want to play the audio through? Sorry, can't do it. Because if you own old equipment you must be a pirate and you don't deserve to consume what you have purchased.

**snooggums** · 03-02-2010 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by El_Gringo_Grande

Another wonderful thing that will make piracy much more attractive.

Starting in 2013 all bluray (and maybe dvd but I am not sure) will remove the "analog hole". This means that every piece of equipment that those players connect to must support the HDMI security stuff.

So, have an old TV you want to watch your content on? Sorry, can't do it. Have an old receiver that you want to play the audio through? Sorry, can't do it. Because if you own old equipment you must be a pirate and you don't deserve to consume what you have purchased.

One of many reasons I have not switched to BluRay.

**ScratchMonkey** · 03-02-2010 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by snooggums

I'm screaming at you right now, but the all caps filter is muting me.

Use Bright Red Bold. It's much more fun.

**BigGaayAl** · 03-02-2010 08:01 PM

Good to know that about blueray. I'll just download the blueray versions thank you. What fools are they to think they can close the loopholes. Naieve bunch of fools. The future for movies isn't any disc. It is harddrives lol.

**ScratchMonkey** · 03-02-2010 08:20 PM

The future of movies is cybernetic implanted memory. And I doubt the Borg have DRM hardware in their heads.

**ScratchMonkey** · 03-02-2010 09:02 PM

Here's an example of the perverse outcome of the DMCA:

http://www.eff.org/cases/blizzard-v-bnetd

At issue in this case was whether three software programmers who created the BnetD game server -- which interoperates with Blizzard video games online -- were in violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) and Blizzard Games' end user license agreement (EULA).

BnetD was an open source program that let gamers play popular Blizzard titles like Warcraft with other gamers on servers that don't belong to Blizzard's Battle.net service. Blizzard argued that the programmers who wrote BnetD violated the DMCA's anti-circumvention provisions and that the programmers also violated several parts of Blizzard's EULA, including a section on reverse engineering.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) and the firm of Day Casebeer Madrid & Batchelder served as counsel for defendants, arguing that programmers should be allowed to create free software designed to work with commercial products because it benefited consumers and helped promote innovation. The 8th Circuit Court of Appeals disagreed, holding that reverse engineering and emulating the Blizzard software were illegal.

Outcome: The reverse engineering and emulating of the Blizzard software violated the anticircumvention provisions of the DMCA. This ruling has been widely criticized as making it impossible to create new programs that interoperate with older ones and squeezing consumer choice out of the marketplace by essentially allowing companies to outlaw competitors' products that interact with their own.

**BigGaayAl** · 03-02-2010 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by ScratchMonkey

The future of movies is cybernetic implanted memory. And I doubt the Borg have DRM hardware in their heads.

Rofl I can see now how awesome their hive mind would work with intellectual property laws! There is a hilarious geek-sketch in that idea

. Borg 1 to borg 2: "Hey stop thinking my thought or I'll send you a takedown notice". Borg 3: "Hey that's my idea, stop it or I'll ... Pretty soon they are all just sitting around mentally suing eachother while Picard is boldly facepalming away where no-one has facepalmed before without any fear of assimilation. Thinking is futile!

**snooggums** · 03-07-2010 08:49 PM

Ubisoft's new DRM authentication servers down, people who bought game can't play it.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...7481010838/p/1

**westyfield** · 03-08-2010 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by snooggums

Ubisoft's new DRM authentication servers down, people who bought game can't play it.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...7481010838/p/1

That sound, as if a million voices cried out "We told you so, Ubi" at once, and then were suddenly silent.

**Scattershot** · 03-08-2010 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by snooggums

Ubisoft's new DRM authentication servers down, people who bought game can't play it.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...7481010838/p/1

Thanks for the reminder on that. I was planning on buying AC2 until Ubi came out up with this crap.

**BigGaayAl** · 03-08-2010 06:25 PM

Apparently they are doing it to save pc gaming, I heard in a reaction to the DDos attack that took them down. How cute.

**Gill** · 03-08-2010 08:22 PM

Sort of like how Modern Warfare 2's IW.net was supposed to "streamline" the game's multiplayer experience.

**ScratchMonkey** · 03-16-2010 02:58 PM

Outrageous and Ridiculous Patents and Judgments
http://www.stephankinsella.com/2009/...and-judgments/

Random picks from the article:

Apple Sued Over Caller ID on the iPhone, Techdirt (Feb. 27, 2008). The patent is on “matching up the phone number of an incoming call with a local contact database to display who is calling.”

SanDisk Sues 25 Companies for Patent Infringement: “Suits have been filed against 25 companies by the SanDisk corporation this week, as the company looks to stop businesses from shipping products it alleges are infringing on its work. SanDisk has filed suits against everyone from MP3 player manufacturers to USB hard drive creators. The list of defendants is staggering, and MacWorld notes if Sandisk succeeds it could have repercussions outside of the courtroom.… The court … complaints could affect the prices and availability of products made by companies targeted in the suit if SanDisk wins and the companies are barred from importing products into the U.S.”

The International Trade Commission (ITC) may ban imports of many popular hard drives that “are alleged to infringe on patents owned by California residents Steven and Mary Reiber related to a ‘Dissipative ceramic bonding tool tip.’” Jacqui Cheng, Hard Times for Hard Drives: US May Ban Popular Imports, ars technica (Oct. 11, 2007).

See the article for links to original news stories about each case.

**BigGaayAl** · 03-16-2010 03:18 PM

Whoa nice examples. I wish I'd patented wiping your ass with a sheet of paper.

**ScratchMonkey** · 03-18-2010 01:32 AM

http://www.neoseeker.com/news/12855-...erver-support/

So how does locking down a game server protect the game from pirates?

I do recall them punishing server operators who ran BF2 servers that unlocked all the weapons. It's a bit like punishing people who use a highlighter in the textbook they purchased. (This is why I stopped buying DICE/EA games after BF2. I'm not going to support a publisher that doesn't support independent server operators. There are plenty of other games I can blow my money on.)

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