Spanish police don't play around! - Page 2

**DudeMan** · 03-09-2005, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CingularDuality

Aww, that's a crying shame.... A rapist that can't walk anymore...

T'would definitely hurt, though. The concept of using your vehicle as a weapon was something I had never really thought of until a while back...

well its alot more savory though than taking whatever the guy has to offer...

as far as i am concerned if you put a police officers life in danger... you give up your right to live... for that matter if you purposly put anyones life in danger tough luck breath into that iron lung buddy.

verbose · 03-12-2005, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CingularDuality

The concept of using your vehicle as a weapon was something I had never really thought of until a while back...

Don't play much Grand Theft Auto, do ya?

Gremlin · 03-12-2005, 07:39 PM

lol man those viedos are sick

**CingularDuality** · 03-29-2005, 05:03 AM

Orange County, California dispatcher deals with someone's emergency: http://kroq.wmod.llnwd.net/a168/o1/kbaudio/911_tape.asf

BATMAN. · 03-29-2005, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CingularDuality

Orange County, California dispatcher deals with someone's emergency: http://kroq.wmod.llnwd.net/a168/o1/kbaudio/911_tape.asf

Rofl!!!!!!!!!!!

**leejo** · 03-29-2005, 02:45 PM

oh jeebus. Can you imagine living with that?

**USN_Squid** · 03-29-2005, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CingularDuality

Orange County, California dispatcher deals with someone's emergency: http://kroq.wmod.llnwd.net/a168/o1/kbaudio/911_tape.asf

oh man....and she's a mother! Hope the spawn stay in CA.

**CingularDuality** · 05-08-2005, 12:55 PM

Montana Sheriff's Deputies dealing with scum: http://www.ebaumsworld.com/crazypursuit.html

And the officer that told me about the video said this:

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This is the crazy police chase in Montana on Highway 12. I know both of the officers in the tape and both are really good guys. I had been a cadet for about a year when this happened, so it's about 2 years ago that this took place.

Some things that aren't on the tape or are hard to see:
Before the tape on here starts, George Davis (BG) tried to ram the deputy head on at about 100 miles per hour on highway 93 south.
The highway patrol officer responded and had a faster car and got out in front at highway 12 headed west towards Idaho. It is the HP guy's car that you are seeing the video from when he gets brake checked and the first shoot out happens. (Notice that both officers are using their shotguns. Shot placement was very good, penetration was crap. This is the reason that deputies in my county are now trained that rifle is primary. AR15s whenever available too.)

You are seeing the deputy's dash video after that. When Davis hits the spike strip and turns sideways he gets off several shots at the deputy before he is rammed. The gun goes flying off towards the upper right side of the screen (if you play it slow you can see this, as well as a round impacting the windshield).

Davis was sentenced to 11 life sentences last I heared in relation to this incident and the murder of a person in Ennis that precipitated this as well as shooting an officer one county south during a traffic stop, shortly before this tape started (not sure on the time, I think it was 20-30 minutes).
All the officers are fine and still active with their departments.

**leejo** · 05-08-2005, 04:03 PM

I remember when that happened.

-10 points in Swat 4....

**SephirothValentine** · 05-17-2005, 08:56 AM

Oh my.... violating criminal people's rights I see. WOOT! Personally I don't agree with criminal rights most of the time. I mean torture is outta of the question especially if you have the wrong guy ect. But when your chasing a criminal down the street who just robbed a place ESPECIALLY if he killed someone that he has no rights (robber though... may be the motorcycle thing was a bit much unless he hurt someone... though it was funny

)

**DudeMan** · 05-17-2005, 03:24 PM

i still think its dngerous, the police assumed the right of judge jury the whole lot,.... which is highly un-ethical in the seperation of powers theory that i believe spain operates under.

Root · 05-17-2005, 07:02 PM

I haven't had a chance to watch the video. Was it municipal police or guardia civil? Guardia civil can be nasty bastards at the best of times and are still feared by law abiding spaniards today, because of their actions under Franco when they were pretty much a clone of the gestapo.

Bottom line, dudeman is correct - police are *not* supposed to act as judge jury and executioner, and it *is* dangerous, but to be honest the guy took hostages. Sounds like he was lucky a swat team didn't go in and put a few rounds in his chest.

Root

IceCold · 05-17-2005, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DudeMan

i still think its dngerous, the police assumed the right of judge jury the whole lot,.... which is highly un-ethical in the seperation of powers theory that i believe spain operates under.

So, you would rather have a criminal armed with grenades loose among the citizenry than take the chance on breaking the criminal's neck trying to stop him? The police have a responsibility to protect society. Letting an armed felon ride off into the sunset isn't fulfilling that responsibility...

I think that the outcome was very satisfactory.

shroompicker · 05-27-2005, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CingularDuality

T'would definitely hurt, though. The concept of using your vehicle as a weapon was something I had never really thought of until a while back...

The training that I got with basic firearms, car vs gun, gun loses.

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Originally Posted by CingularDuality

Orange County, California dispatcher deals with someone's emergency: http://kroq.wmod.llnwd.net/a168/o1/kbaudio/911_tape.asf

A radio talk show here in Phoenix played a 911 call with a 6 year old girl reporting her own parents freshly murdered with the prowler still in the house. The police showed up at the end of the 90 second call, the prowler was gone and the girl was fine.

The host then followed up with exactly the same wrongfull cheeseburger call.

--Shroom

shroompicker · 05-27-2005, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DudeMan

i still think its dngerous, the police assumed the right of judge jury the whole lot,.... which is highly un-ethical in the seperation of powers theory that i believe spain operates under.

From what I saw, after his capture the police took him to jail to await trial. They didn't take him to a prison, nor did they arange a hanging on the intersection where he was captured, nor put him under a firing squad at the police station.

Not to defend the Spanish police TOO much. It might have been safer for police and <i>bystandars</i> to have given him a bike with an alarm with a fuel cutoff switch, fail to give him the alarm code, then jump him when he was away from the hostages and the bike cuts out.

--Shroom

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Root Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South east england Posts: 8,839	Re: Spanish police don't play around! I haven't had a chance to watch the video. Was it municipal police or guardia civil? Guardia civil can be nasty bastards at the best of times and are still feared by law abiding spaniards today, because of their actions under Franco when they were pretty much a clone of the gestapo. Bottom line, dudeman is correct - police are not supposed to act as judge jury and executioner, and it is dangerous, but to be honest the guy took hostages. Sounds like he was lucky a swat team didn't go in and put a few rounds in his chest. Root __________________ BFCL TF2 league admin

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