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Old 01-30-2005, 07:08 PM   #31 (permalink)
 
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Re: Media trying to create a story ?

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But when you're a dignitary, THAT'S WHAT YOU DO.

It could be that Dick Cheney is at his most comforatble wearing a lime green t-shirt that reads "Tennis Players Have Fuzzy Balls" on the front, but you don't don that garment when attending a formal function.

In the same vein (though certainly not to that degree), his choice of clothing was questionable given the event.

precisely ......................
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Old 01-30-2005, 08:00 PM   #32 (permalink)
 
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yeah you tell yourself this and turn up to a funeral in shorts and t-shirt because its too warm to wear black.

if you dont see the similarity you need to go read up on what the hell they were there fore. it is not just showing up, it is showing respect.

he should have worn black, it was the comemoration of over 1million people dying for no reason at all.
Actually, I recently attended a funeral for my grandfather and I wasn't wearing a "black" coat. I was wearing a suit and tie, and I wore my winter jacket over that to keep warm while the services were being held outside in the cold.

He didn't show up in jeans and an old sweatshirt, he showed up to a funeral wearing a heavy coat to keep the cold out. But hey, if you want to freeze your balls off just to wear a black overcoat that doesn't provide much heat, more power to you. Me, I will stick to what is practical and keep myself warm, even if it isn't black.
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Old 01-30-2005, 08:03 PM   #33 (permalink)
 
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Re: Media trying to create a story ?

Personally, this is what I feel is the best way to respect those that died from the hands of Hitler and his madness.

Pledge that you will do everything in your power to keep it from happening again.

I don't think what you wear matters to those up in Heaven that died because of Hitler's sin. But if anyone there ever steps aside and lets another madman do the same thing without helping, I am sure all the victims will feel their deaths were in vain.
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Old 01-30-2005, 09:43 PM   #34 (permalink)
 
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Actually, I recently attended a funeral for my grandfather and I wasn't wearing a "black" coat. I was wearing a suit and tie, and I wore my winter jacket over that to keep warm while the services were being held outside in the cold.

He didn't show up in jeans and an old sweatshirt, he showed up to a funeral wearing a heavy coat to keep the cold out. But hey, if you want to freeze your balls off just to wear a black overcoat that doesn't provide much heat, more power to you. Me, I will stick to what is practical and keep myself warm, even if it isn't black.

then quite honestly i think you have no respect. plain and simple.

if you cant for a couple of hours on the day of rememberence for either your grandfather or 1 million jews wear black then you are plain disrespectful.

you can put your comfort where you want in your priority but you just think of the discomfort of the people you are remembering and then you say to yourself i am not bothered with that ill just go as i please.

and it still boils down to well the only guy who wore green was doing the righht thing... the rest of the world is still wrong. im sorry how arrogant.
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then quite honestly i think you have no respect. plain and simple.
Quite honestly, making hasty generalizations about people based on little knowledge of the situation would be more disrespectful. And then making a personal attack about ones feelings for their own family based on what you define respect as would be hilarious if it weren't so disrespectful (as you put it) and spiteful.
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Old 01-31-2005, 08:08 AM   #37 (permalink)
 
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then quite honestly i think you have no respect. plain and simple.
You know something? I am going to do something totally out of character and not get pissed off and go off on a rant against you Dudeman for your rude and disrespectful comment about me.

You don't know me, you don't know my family, you never knew my grandfather so you don't have any right to say what is and what isn't respectful to him.
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Old 01-31-2005, 04:23 PM   #38 (permalink)
 
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Quite honestly, making hasty generalizations about people based on little knowledge of the situation would be more disrespectful. And then making a personal attack about ones feelings for their own family based on what you define respect as would be hilarious if it weren't so disrespectful (as you put it) and spiteful.

im sorry that is a ridiculous argument, i can only base a point of view on my definition of respect, if i based it on anothers it wouldnt be my point of view. oh yeah and i was being spitefuil.... yep really wanted to make him cry... absolute crap pal.


as for wolfie, well im sorry you took it as insulting. i admitt i have stupidly and wrongly gone too far to try and prov a point. ill admitt that i dont know your grandfather and what would have made him happy. im sorry i did not mean to be insulting i just put my feelings across insensitivly.

on the same note, it may make your grandad happy but as for 1 million jews disabl;ed people or whoever, its still traditionally more respectful to wear black, yes he may have suffered an hour of being a bit cold, but it would not have killed him and it would have been a mark of respect.
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Old 02-03-2005, 04:42 PM   #39 (permalink)
 
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yes he may have suffered an hour of being a bit cold, but it would not have killed him and it would have been a mark of respect.
That is not necessary true. Not being properly warm outdoors in the cold can lead to viruses/illnesses that can kill people, especially for the eldarly.
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Not to mention that he has had what.. 300 heart attacks since he become VP? That alone can seriously weaken somebodies immune system.
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Re: Media trying to create a story ?

I love Dick Cheney (my father looks, talks, and acts just like him, so I'm biased) but I think that for an event like this, the state department and protocol people should be able to scrounge up a formal winter coat for the 2nd in line for Head Of State. Someone at State screwed up.

I don't think it's proof of anything more than that, though. Just my opinion.
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Old 02-03-2005, 05:26 PM   #42 (permalink)
 
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precisely, its not hard to get a formal but warm coat.
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That is not necessary true. Not being properly warm outdoors in the cold can lead to viruses/illnesses that can kill people, especially for the eldarly.
I can't believe that an engineer just posted this old wive's tale... Unless it's so cold that his core body temperature is decreased so much that his immune system is affected, being cold does not make someone sick. Staying cooped up in a warm building with lots of other people (some of which are sick) is what brings on winter illness...
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Old 02-03-2005, 08:29 PM   #44 (permalink)
 
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I can't believe that an engineer just posted this old wive's tale... Unless it's so cold that his core body temperature is decreased so much that his immune system is affected, being cold does not make someone sick. Staying cooped up in a warm building with lots of other people (some of which are sick) is what brings on winter illness...

true... flu is a virus... its transported in people.

being cold is uncomfortable
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I can't believe that an engineer just posted this old wive's tale... Unless it's so cold that his core body temperature is decreased so much that his immune system is affected, being cold does not make someone sick. Staying cooped up in a warm building with lots of other people (some of which are sick) is what brings on winter illness...

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Not being properly warm outdoors in the cold can lead to viruses/illnesses that can kill people,
Bold type mine...he didn't say it did cause illness, but can ...big difference...
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