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Old 01-30-2005, 04:41 PM   #16 (permalink)
 
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Re: I voted in the iraqi out-of-country elections.

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Man, I was all set to defend you and then you hung yourself with these ignorant remarks... Grow up, educate yourself both on the military and life in general, then come back and decide whether you still think that way. One day you'll realize that there's more to life than what you're seeing right now and I bet you'll regret the things that you just said...

rgr that, educate yourself on the war in 91, and you will see how the US wanted to go into Iraq but couldnt,

oh and did you stop to think for one second that there may be veterens of the 91 war in here,

no i dont suppose you did, you just launched anassault on what they did achieve in 91, then rag on the effort now to finish what was started.

)not at you cing just agreed with what you said.
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Old 01-30-2005, 05:03 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: I voted in the iraqi out-of-country elections.

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Its people like you guys that make all the terrorists clump in iraq and fight against the United States.


You people make me sick.
That sounds to me like you are taking an affectionate side with these gutless, spineless, dirtbag terrorists who prey on the innocent without sense or reason, to kill themselves in the quest to kill an infidel.

Do you realize how utterly retarded you sound?

The Jihad will be crushed to oblivion. All it is doing is substantiating why the world community hates terroists and everything they stand for.

And please...the "Mommy won't let me fight" thing is hilarious...I hope it was a joke. I would definitley hide your feelings while in the RW...someone is not going to like what you think. You are in America. You should thank your God that you are where you are.

The only good terrorist is one on the ground....bleeding to death.
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Old 01-30-2005, 05:07 PM   #18 (permalink)
 
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Re: I voted in the iraqi out-of-country elections.

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Man, I was all set to defend you and then you hung yourself with these ignorant remarks... Grow up, educate yourself both on the military and life in general, then come back and decide whether you still think that way. One day you'll realize that there's more to life than what you're seeing right now and I bet you'll regret the things that you just said...
WHAT?!? You could just as easily said that to RYN and DudeMan for the prejudice they pulled on blackjackel. Which is exactly what incited him to say that in the first place.

In any event I'm sure "you people" was not "you Americans" or "you all at TG" but rather the people who try and shoot others down without knowing all the facts.

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You have NO IDEA how much I wanted to participate in the war, I even called an enlistment officer. First of all, my parents did not want me to participate in the war and in order for me to keep good relations with them, i had to listen to them. Second of all, when i called the recruiter, I asked him "what about if my squad leader orders me to take down people that I thought were Innocent Muslims", he simply replied "When you took the oath of citizenship, you agreed to fight against any enemy against the United States"... Well, i didnt like the fact that i couldnt decide who was an enemy and who was not, and HAD to shoot at people that werent enemies just because I was told they were.
There, now you see he was willing to fight but had more important reasons not to.
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Try this: step back, observe the facts with couth, state your view of the Iraqi election/ war of '91/when people need to stand up and fight rather than just bitch at home, then debate it together intelligently.

Or the alternative: sit here and flame and have the thread locked after 2 pages.

Honestly I don't know why the former can't just take place more often by itself, but the latter will accomplish nothing but hatred and unnecessary fued. That much I know.
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Old 01-30-2005, 05:08 PM   #19 (permalink)
 
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That sounds to me like you are taking an affectionate side with these gutless, spineless, dirtbag terrorists who prey on the innocent without sense or reason, to kill themselves in the quest to kill an infidel.

Do you realize how utterly retarded you sound?

The Jihad will be crushed to oblivion. All it is doing is substantiating why the world community hates terroists and everything they stand for.

And please...the "Mommy won't let me fight" thing is hilarious...I hope it was a joke. I would definitley hide your feelings while in the RW...someone is not going to like what you think. You are in America. You should thank your God that you are where you are.

The only good terrorist is one on the ground....bleeding to death.
you have a way with words RYN.... and i agree whole heartedly

i am sick of imigrants, political or otherwise getting a place in a country that will not persecute them.... then complaining their ass off...
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Old 01-30-2005, 05:10 PM   #20 (permalink)
 
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Re: I voted in the iraqi out-of-country elections.

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WHAT?!? You could just as easily said that to RYN and DudeMan for the prejudice they pulled on blackjackel. Which is exactly what incited him to say that in the first place.

In any event I'm sure "you people" was not "you Americans" or "you all at TG" but rather the people who try and shoot others down without knowing all the facts.



There, now you see he was willing to fight but had more important reasons not to.
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Try this: step back, observe the facts with couth, state your view of the Iraqi election/ war of '91/when people need to stand up and fight rather than just bitch at home, then debate it together intelligently.

Or the alternative: sit here and flame and have the thread locked after 2 pages.

Honestly I don't know why the former can't just take place more often by itself, but the latter will accomplish nothing but hatred and unnecessary fued. That much I know.
man if you can seriously look at what myself and RYN said in the same light as what jackel said... well then there is no point trying to show you any different.
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Old 01-30-2005, 05:58 PM   #21 (permalink)
 
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man if you can seriously look at what myself and RYN said in the same light as what jackel said... well then there is no point trying to show you any different.
Actually, I would like to hear what's different. Enlighten me.
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Old 01-30-2005, 05:58 PM   #22 (permalink)
 
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Re: I voted in the iraqi out-of-country elections.

well Black Jackel I was with yopu all the way up to" You have NO IDEA how much " there you turned into a complainer full of excusses. I think that you need to take a real hard look at reality. As for the haliburton oil stealing, you are full of camel sh!t. there is not enough oil coming out to make the plane ride there worth it much less sending all the personel and supplies needed for this opperation.
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Old 01-30-2005, 06:09 PM   #23 (permalink)
 
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Actually, I would like to hear what's different. Enlighten me.

like i said, there would be no point.
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Old 01-30-2005, 06:13 PM   #24 (permalink)
 
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well Black Jackel I was with yopu all the way up to" You have NO IDEA how much " there you turned into a complainer full of excusses. I think that you need to take a real hard look at reality. As for the haliburton oil stealing, you are full of camel sh!t. there is not enough oil coming out to make the plane ride there worth it much less sending all the personel and supplies needed for this opperation.

have you not heard newsworthy.... its all about the oil... we are stealing it, have you not seen your oil prices fall... oh no wait one darn second no such luck...

its the same whereever you go, people complain about the west, yet it becomes ridiculous when someone would complain about us but rather live in our societies.
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Old 01-30-2005, 06:23 PM   #25 (permalink)
 
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Oh on a lighter note. over 50% of eligable voters voted. UHrah sounds like a hell of a deal to me.
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Old 01-30-2005, 06:28 PM   #26 (permalink)
 
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Oh on a lighter note. over 50% of eligable voters voted. UHrah sounds like a hell of a deal to me.

well when you consider, only 38-40% of Britons voted in the last general election, that is great. with all the preasure of attacks and fear for survival its a great turnout.

salute to all those who voted, especially in Iraq where the threat of violence and death is so real.
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Old 01-30-2005, 06:55 PM   #27 (permalink)
 
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Re: I voted in the iraqi out-of-country elections.

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For the United-States to enforce the "no-fly" zone so that saddam cant use his helicopter gunships to gun down and bomb cities and people.
The US did enforce a "no fly" zone, one in the north and one in the south. Why do you think the Kurds in the north had so much success against SH?

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The "other things" included allowing Saddam's army to cut though U.S. forces to go slaughter the revolters. It almost seemed like the United-States WANTED Saddams army to crush the revolution against him.
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Old 01-30-2005, 08:12 PM   #28 (permalink)
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[quote=HairyNevus]WHAT?!? You could just as easily said that to RYN and DudeMan for the prejudice they pulled on blackjackel. Which is exactly what incited him to say that in the first place. [quote]


I'd like to clarify that I am not prejudice. I just find it quite ironic that a person of Iraqi origin now living in America has the utter gaul to think that the USA has to cater to him or her to vote. BlackJackal is an American citizen formerly from Iraq. An American citizen. What gives him the right to vote in the first place? You live in America. I'm under the impresion you will not leave your new "First World Country" to go back to the "Third World Homeland".

J--sus Ch--st Jackal, over one thousand Americans have died trying to clean up that sh-t pit over there. Pick a country and it's values and just go with one. You seem to be an exception by having two countries.

Pick any American family who has lost a brother, sister, mother, father, a son or daughter in Iraq and tell them to their face how inconvenient it was for you to drive an hour to vote for a government in another country....it just blows me away man.

Prejudice I am not.

Pissed off at BlackJackal's disregard for American's sacrificing their lives on a daily basis? Yes.
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Old 01-30-2005, 08:40 PM   #29 (permalink)
 
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Re: I voted in the iraqi out-of-country elections.

You told blackjackel to go and fight. Lo and behold he had a firming intention of doing so. He disagreed with the fact he would have to gun down innocent people if he was ordered to do so. Also his parents (who I guess love him or something) didn't want him to leave them. Is it so hard to believe he wanted to honor thier request? This is what I know from reading the posts.

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So, you jumped the gun telling him to fight assuming he never wanted to. As I've said and he's stated, he did. There art thou prejudice.

You (everyone participating in this thread) need to stop the slander and nonsequential arguments against some overblown bull**** you created. Instead, stop and think about what the topic at hand really is. Is it about blackjackel's vote and how great it is there's a democracy in Iraq? Is it about some war in '91 and how America didn't do the job it said it would? Is it about people sitting at home bitching about this that and the other and not getting off thier asses to do something about it? You decide.
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Old 01-30-2005, 08:49 PM   #30 (permalink)
 
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You told blackjackel to go and fight. Lo and behold he had a firming intention of doing so. He disagreed with the fact he would have to gun down innocent people if he was ordered to do so. Also his parents (who I guess love him or something) didn't want him to leave them. Is it so hard to believe he wanted to honor thier request? This is what I know from reading the posts.

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So, you jumped the gun telling him to fight assuming he never wanted to. As I've said and he's stated, he did. There art thou prejudice.

You (everyone participating in this thread) need to stop the slander and nonsequential arguments against some overblown bull**** you created. Instead, stop and think about what the topic at hand really is. Is it about blackjackel's vote and how great it is there's a democracy in Iraq? Is it about some war in '91 and how America didn't do the job it said it would? Is it about people sitting at home bitching about this that and the other and not getting off thier asses to do something about it? You decide.
oh my god what a whole load of crap.

hey hairy why dont you stop pre judging people by thinking we dont know what that word means.

hmmm well he starts off the thread with the holier than now crap about prejudice and then says this.
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You (everyone participating in this thread) need to stop the slander and nonsequential arguments against some overblown bull**** you created.
slander we created, i think not, your opinion pal... you can preech all you want ab out repecting others opinions but when **** dont go your way you just throw out all this.

man you just discredited your own statement. oh and FYI you read the forums soo damn well you would know he was the one who stated the bitching about 91.
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