Police chase video

**CingularDuality** · 03-03-2005, 07:01 AM

http://media.skoopy.com/vids/vid_00487.wmv

I'm sure that some of you will disagree, but I think it has a happy ending...

**MONKERZ** · 03-03-2005, 10:06 AM

did you see that suburban roll over on his head after the crash....OMG that is funny crap. Then the cop gets there and cuffs him....lol...id say AK his ass for running....LOL

-Monkz

**DudeMan** · 03-03-2005, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MONKERZ

did you see that suburban roll over on his head after the crash....OMG that is funny crap. Then the cop gets there and cuffs him....lol...id say AK his ass for running....LOL

-Monkz

and isnt the world glad you are not in a position of control... as far as i can see the reporters dont know why hs is running, and running from the police is not an excuse to die....

the only way i could call this a happy ending is because no other roadusers were hurt.... but without a story behind this, its nothig to be laughed at...

**Tempus** · 03-03-2005, 12:28 PM

Let's see... He willingly put other innocent peoples' lives at stake... Any one of those cars he passed could have been obliterated by his SUV at that speed if some poor mother with her kids in the car had changed lanes at the wrong time... I'd say, yeah, that's a happy ending. And if he died because of it, even happier.

**DudeMan** · 03-03-2005, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tempus

Let's see... He willingly put other innocent peoples' lives at stake... Any one of those cars he passed could have been obliterated by his SUV at that speed if some poor mother with her kids in the car had changed lanes at the wrong time... I'd say, yeah, that's a happy ending. And if he died because of it, even happier.

you assume an awful lot here, can you tell me his name, age and mental stability. hmmm thought not...

but you assume he was sound of mind... and reguardless of his guilt your gung hoe attitude is what makes this a bad example of justice

**CingularDuality** · 03-03-2005, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tempus

Let's see... He willingly put other innocent peoples' lives at stake... Any one of those cars he passed could have been obliterated by his SUV at that speed if some poor mother with her kids in the car had changed lanes at the wrong time... I'd say, yeah, that's a happy ending. And if he died because of it, even happier.

Exactly. He intentionally put other people's lives at risk while running from the police. The fact that nobody was hurt except for the scumbag makes me very happy.

**leejo** · 03-03-2005, 03:36 PM

AND he was breaking the law by not wearing his seatbelt!!

**Wolfie** · 03-03-2005, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DudeMan

you assume an awful lot here, can you tell me his name, age and mental stability. hmmm thought not...

but you assume he was sound of mind... and reguardless of his guilt your gung hoe attitude is what makes this a bad example of justice

I see people here all the time travel on icy roads at speeds of 70-80 mph. Would they get my compassion if they got into a wreck? Hell no. If this joker died after what he did, would I feel anything for him? Hell no. The only compassion from me if in the above 2 situations an innocent bystander was injuried/killed and only the innocent would get it from me.

It doesn't matter what your state of mind is, it is still your responsibility for your actions behind the wheel of a vehicle.

**leejo** · 03-03-2005, 05:21 PM

I guess Dudeman was positing that he may have been mentally retarded or something. If some mentally disabled person somehow hopped in a vehicle and sped away then yes that person would have my sympathy. Occasionally 2 years olds managed to engage a vehicle. Since they're small they cant put the pedal to the floor but a grown retarded man could.

I thought the video said there was a shooting, though. Regardless, it is a good thing that van left the road without hitting anyone. If someone died in the process that's too bad, doubly so if that person was innocent by virtue of being unable to make an adult judgment, less so if that person was a ****bag.

**DudeMan** · 03-03-2005, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by leejo

I guess Dudeman was positing that he may have been mentally retarded or something. If some mentally disabled person somehow hopped in a vehicle and sped away then yes that person would have my sympathy. Occasionally 2 years olds managed to engage a vehicle. Since they're small they cant put the pedal to the floor but a grown retarded man could.

I thought the video said there was a shooting, though. Regardless, it is a good thing that van left the road without hitting anyone. If someone died in the process that's too bad, doubly so if that person was innocent by virtue of being unable to make an adult judgment, less so if that person was a ****bag.

sorry i think everyone here has jumped to a conclusion and stuck with their guns... watch the video again for clarification if you like, the reporter was unsure of the events and said "reports said it could be a shooting", but when further quizzed he is unsure...

do we convinct this man without even knowing what happened, who he was, and what his mental state at the time was? it seems many of you could care less, and after some people complaining about how cars dont move out of their way when the exceed 70, and then rag on this guy for doing a hundred is obsurd.

i dont know this guys name, nothing; give me some evidence to say he was just some tart who was being defiant and endangering citizens, and not a mental case: (does not hae to be retarded, if someone is in a breakdown then i will still have sympathy) but some additional facts and i might agree, but to turn round and say, well i heard one flaky shady discription of what alledgedly occured and then saw him die, justice served, is absolutly obsurd and crap.

**Apophis** · 03-03-2005, 07:59 PM

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/new...C?OpenDocument

A man fatally shot his estranged wife and her friend in Town and Country on Friday, authorities said, then led police on a high-speed chase before he was killed in a spectacular crash at Highway 40 and Lindbergh Boulevard.

Authorities identified the couple as John Clark Alexander, 38, and Kelli L. Alexander, 35, both of Frontenac, and the friend as April Wheeler, 29, of St. Charles.

The Alexanders, who have three children, were getting a divorce, and she had an order of protection against him issued last month, police said. Kelli Alexander and her children were staying with April Wheeler and her husband, Mark Wheeler, in St. Charles.

The tragedy played out about 5 p.m. in the 2600 block of Bopp Road, in front of a row of tidy ranch houses and tree-lined sidewalks, a few blocks from the Alexanders' home. Mark Wheeler said his wife, Kelli Alexander and the children were supposed to go to a fish fry at St. Clements Catholic Church in Des Peres on Friday evening with John Alexander. April Wheeler went along to supervise the visit because of Kelli Alexander's restraining order.

Police said John Alexander waited in his white GMC Denali, a customized SUV, on Bopp Lane until he saw his wife coming north on Bopp Road. He pulled in front of her. .

Kelli Alexander got out, and John Alexander chased her down and shot her, police said. He then returned and shot April Wheeler.

The Denali sped away, leaving tire ruts in a neighbor's yard. Police said the couple's children were unharmed. Police said it was unclear how much of the shooting they saw. They were being cared for by neighbors immediately after the incident.

After the shooting, police spotted John Alexander's vehicle near Bopp Road and Manchester Road. They followed him to Interstate 270, which Alexander took north to Page Avenue, where he turned around and headed south on 270. A KTVI (Channel 2) television news helicopter followed Alexander's vehicle, clocking it at speeds of about 100 mph. Alexander took Highway 40 east, clipping a guardrail on the right side of the road west of Lindbergh Boulevard, crushing a section of it.

The SUV went across the grass, lost a tire and went airborne, vaulting two lanes of southbound Lindbergh, a concrete barrier and landing in a northbound lane. It narrowly missed at least one car passing beneath.

The impact left a streak of white car paint across one lane of Lindbergh, and the SUV stayed upright for 10 to 15 yards, then rolled dozens of yards before stopping on its roof in the grassy center of the cloverleaf on the east side of Lindbergh. Alexander was thrown from the car.

A story in the Post-Dispatch a decade ago detailed an altercation the couple had with a police officer in Warson Woods who stopped them because their license plate was not properly lighted.

Warson Woods dropped the charge, but John Alexander was upset about a $3 fee that the city charges to postpone municipal court cases. Alexander had requested two postponements on the ticket, for a total of $6. He ultimately paid it in nickels, dimes and quarters and vowed to sue the city.

Jeremy Kohler and Joel Currier of the Post-Dispatch contributed to this report.

**Tempus** · 03-03-2005, 08:00 PM

Sorry, but if a mental case goes on a driving rampage and potentially kills other people, well then, the world's a better place without him anyway.

**leejo** · 03-03-2005, 09:08 PM

I guess driving a customized Denali could be considered a sign of mental illness.

**DudeMan** · 03-04-2005, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tempus

Sorry, but if a mental case goes on a driving rampage and potentially kills other people, well then, the world's a better place without him anyway.

SORRY MATE YOU ARE WRONG! no two ways about it, i have a cousin with mental disorder, he spends his entire life paranoid, and he has done some stupid things, i will never condone or allow something like this to happen, but your lack of compasion for something you SEEM to have very little knowledge of is laughable.... if like in the case apo describes, the guy has nothing wrong with him other than a personal grudge then ok, but to generalise like that is wrong.

**DudeMan** · 03-04-2005, 12:32 PM

apo, thansk for finding that information, it sheds light on the entire case, this guy could possibly have been going through a mental breakdown, however, i would say he was somewhat sound of mind. to wait and premeditate a murder like that requires some degree of sanity. an insane person would probably not have gone back to shoot the passenger...

i still have trouble saying this is a happy ending, i still think its tradgic, while i do not care much for the driver now, it seems 2 people still lost their lives, not including the driver, oh and he ruined that grassy verge the barstard...

i may be picking at threads here, but i would call it a fortunate ending to the chase.

03-03-2005, 07:01 AM	#1 (permalink)
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03-03-2005, 10:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
MONKERZ Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Selmer, TN Age: 22 Posts: 334	Re: Police chase video did you see that suburban roll over on his head after the crash....OMG that is funny crap. Then the cop gets there and cuffs him....lol...id say AK his ass for running....LOL -Monkz __________________ Allen: Yeah, you're right. Monkerz: I think "that" in its self proves my intelligence greater than yours, thus joo have just been pwnt by Monkerz!

03-03-2005, 12:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
Tempus Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, FL Age: 38 Posts: 8,234	Re: Police chase video Let's see... He willingly put other innocent peoples' lives at stake... Any one of those cars he passed could have been obliterated by his SUV at that speed if some poor mother with her kids in the car had changed lanes at the wrong time... I'd say, yeah, that's a happy ending. And if he died because of it, even happier.

03-03-2005, 03:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
leejo Join Date: Sep 2003 Age: 39 Posts: 7,839	Re: Police chase video AND he was breaking the law by not wearing his seatbelt!!

03-03-2005, 05:21 PM	#9 (permalink)
leejo Join Date: Sep 2003 Age: 39 Posts: 7,839	Re: Police chase video I guess Dudeman was positing that he may have been mentally retarded or something. If some mentally disabled person somehow hopped in a vehicle and sped away then yes that person would have my sympathy. Occasionally 2 years olds managed to engage a vehicle. Since they're small they cant put the pedal to the floor but a grown retarded man could. I thought the video said there was a shooting, though. Regardless, it is a good thing that van left the road without hitting anyone. If someone died in the process that's too bad, doubly so if that person was innocent by virtue of being unable to make an adult judgment, less so if that person was a ****bag.

03-03-2005, 07:59 PM	#11 (permalink)
Apophis Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Rhode Island, USA Age: 36 Posts: 8,974	Re: Police chase video http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/new...C?OpenDocument A man fatally shot his estranged wife and her friend in Town and Country on Friday, authorities said, then led police on a high-speed chase before he was killed in a spectacular crash at Highway 40 and Lindbergh Boulevard. Authorities identified the couple as John Clark Alexander, 38, and Kelli L. Alexander, 35, both of Frontenac, and the friend as April Wheeler, 29, of St. Charles. The Alexanders, who have three children, were getting a divorce, and she had an order of protection against him issued last month, police said. Kelli Alexander and her children were staying with April Wheeler and her husband, Mark Wheeler, in St. Charles. The tragedy played out about 5 p.m. in the 2600 block of Bopp Road, in front of a row of tidy ranch houses and tree-lined sidewalks, a few blocks from the Alexanders' home. Mark Wheeler said his wife, Kelli Alexander and the children were supposed to go to a fish fry at St. Clements Catholic Church in Des Peres on Friday evening with John Alexander. April Wheeler went along to supervise the visit because of Kelli Alexander's restraining order. Police said John Alexander waited in his white GMC Denali, a customized SUV, on Bopp Lane until he saw his wife coming north on Bopp Road. He pulled in front of her. . Kelli Alexander got out, and John Alexander chased her down and shot her, police said. He then returned and shot April Wheeler. The Denali sped away, leaving tire ruts in a neighbor's yard. Police said the couple's children were unharmed. Police said it was unclear how much of the shooting they saw. They were being cared for by neighbors immediately after the incident. After the shooting, police spotted John Alexander's vehicle near Bopp Road and Manchester Road. They followed him to Interstate 270, which Alexander took north to Page Avenue, where he turned around and headed south on 270. A KTVI (Channel 2) television news helicopter followed Alexander's vehicle, clocking it at speeds of about 100 mph. Alexander took Highway 40 east, clipping a guardrail on the right side of the road west of Lindbergh Boulevard, crushing a section of it. The SUV went across the grass, lost a tire and went airborne, vaulting two lanes of southbound Lindbergh, a concrete barrier and landing in a northbound lane. It narrowly missed at least one car passing beneath. The impact left a streak of white car paint across one lane of Lindbergh, and the SUV stayed upright for 10 to 15 yards, then rolled dozens of yards before stopping on its roof in the grassy center of the cloverleaf on the east side of Lindbergh. Alexander was thrown from the car. A story in the Post-Dispatch a decade ago detailed an altercation the couple had with a police officer in Warson Woods who stopped them because their license plate was not properly lighted. Warson Woods dropped the charge, but John Alexander was upset about a $3 fee that the city charges to postpone municipal court cases. Alexander had requested two postponements on the ticket, for a total of $6. He ultimately paid it in nickels, dimes and quarters and vowed to sue the city. Jeremy Kohler and Joel Currier of the Post-Dispatch contributed to this report. __________________ Diplomacy is the art of saying "good doggie" while looking for a bigger stick.

03-03-2005, 08:00 PM	#12 (permalink)
Tempus Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, FL Age: 38 Posts: 8,234	Re: Police chase video Sorry, but if a mental case goes on a driving rampage and potentially kills other people, well then, the world's a better place without him anyway.

03-03-2005, 09:08 PM	#13 (permalink)
leejo Join Date: Sep 2003 Age: 39 Posts: 7,839	Re: Police chase video I guess driving a customized Denali could be considered a sign of mental illness.

03-04-2005, 12:32 PM	#15 (permalink)
DudeMan Join Date: May 2003 Location: london England Age: 22 Posts: 3,258	Re: Police chase video apo, thansk for finding that information, it sheds light on the entire case, this guy could possibly have been going through a mental breakdown, however, i would say he was somewhat sound of mind. to wait and premeditate a murder like that requires some degree of sanity. an insane person would probably not have gone back to shoot the passenger... i still have trouble saying this is a happy ending, i still think its tradgic, while i do not care much for the driver now, it seems 2 people still lost their lives, not including the driver, oh and he ruined that grassy verge the barstard... i may be picking at threads here, but i would call it a fortunate ending to the chase. __________________ The Queen "Those who perpetrate these brutal acts against innocent people should know that they will not change our way of life," *Atrocities such as these simply reinforce our sense of community* TheFeniX "Guns don't kill people: effeminate men in green tunics do"

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