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Old 03-26-2005, 11:03 AM   #31 (permalink)
 
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Re: Narc shoots himself in leg, DURING children's demo!

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it seemed like he was going to finish the presentation.

nuff said on that subject then, its a fake man...
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Old 03-26-2005, 04:08 PM   #32 (permalink)


 
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nuff said on that subject then, its a fake man...
The video is not a fake. I've since spoken to agents that have worked with the subject of this video. Evidently, the extractor on the pistol malfunctioned.

Why he bothered to have another person visually inspect the chamber is beyond me, though, much less why he would've pulled the trigger...
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Old 03-27-2005, 06:23 AM   #33 (permalink)
 
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The video is not a fake. I've since spoken to agents that have worked with the subject of this video. Evidently, the extractor on the pistol malfunctioned.

Why he bothered to have another person visually inspect the chamber is beyond me, though, much less why he would've pulled the trigger...

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Old 03-29-2005, 03:08 PM   #34 (permalink)
 
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What would you have had him do?
Probably stop the presentation. The first thing I would think if I were in the audience is, "Uh, I don't care what he has to say about guns now. I think he should probably get that gunshot wound checked out." After seeing somebody shoot himself during a gun safety presentation, I wouldn't be interested in seeing the conclusion. Just because the wound might not be fatal, it doesn't mean he's obligated to complete the presentation.
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Old 03-29-2005, 06:16 PM   #35 (permalink)
 
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Re: Narc shoots himself in leg, DURING children's demo!

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Probably stop the presentation. The first thing I would think if I were in the audience is, "Uh, I don't care what he has to say about guns now. I think he should probably get that gunshot wound checked out." After seeing somebody shoot himself during a gun safety presentation, I wouldn't be interested in seeing the conclusion. Just because the wound might not be fatal, it doesn't mean he's obligated to complete the presentation.
Good point, but I don't know how much you deal with large crowds of public people. I think that he was trying to control the situation the best way he could think of... The last thing desired is a room full of panicked kids and moms.
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Old 03-29-2005, 06:38 PM   #36 (permalink)
 
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Re: Narc shoots himself in leg, DURING children's demo!

I agree, I don't think his reaction was a horrible mistake. It was just a little odd.
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I agree, I don't think his reaction was a horrible mistake. It was just a little odd.
That's for sure! He obviously wasn't giving the presentation alone. I'm assuming that the lady that brought him the AR was also a DEA employee, or otherwise knew him. I would've calmly left the room and let someone else calm the crowd while I got some first aid and waited for the ambulance to come get my dumb ass...
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Old 03-30-2005, 08:21 AM   #38 (permalink)
 
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Good point, but I don't know how much you deal with large crowds of public people. I think that he was trying to control the situation the best way he could think of... The last thing desired is a room full of panicked kids and moms.

i have delt with large groups of people before, i would say in the riegion of about 1-2 hundred people, granted this guys first reaction is on par, "is anyone hurt, are you all ok.... but reguardless of the fact he needs a calm crowd, his next reaction shows that this was faked. upon your own premise he needs people calm, if so, bringing a pk 51 out is not going to do that.

and given hios extensive knowledge of guns, and alledgedly yours of wounds, you and he would know tha the gun shot wound its self may not kill him, but shock, infection, blood poisoning. all these factors plus a dozen more could kill or seriously injure him. the only way to prevent these is imiediate hospital care, and not once did anyine call for an ambulence or try to clean dress or elevate the wound.

its fake.
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