and now for something really different..

**_Ender_** · 11-21-2003, 06:35 PM

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=638&e=1&u=/nm/20031121/en_nm/people_jackson_dc

I kinda feel bad for him but he was sort of asking for it. I also dont think he is totally to blame, this kids parents need to get a reality check also..

Thoughts, feelings, think he did it, think its bull****?

**Wyzcrak** · 11-21-2003, 06:38 PM

Innocent until proven guilty.

America. Love it or leave it.

Wyzcrak

**_Ender_** · 11-21-2003, 06:40 PM

So you have no opinion on this until the verdict?

**Wolfie** · 11-21-2003, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyzcrak

Innocent until proven guilty.

America. Love it or leave it.

Wyzcrak

While I am a firm believer in this principle, I find it easy to believe that there might be some truth to the allegations. This isn't the first time he was charged with child molestation. The first time didn't go to court because he paid off the family and they withdrew the charges which cause the prosecution to pull the case (hard to prosecute when your witness leaves).

**_Ender_** · 11-21-2003, 06:53 PM

<I'm bored so I'm here refreshing this forum until somebody replys

)

I'm kinda with wolfie on this one. I mean, have you seen this guys.. umm.. well MJ's life style? It screams pedo. He has a secret room in one of his closets that is basically a boys room. Its really weird and sick and a bunch of other stuff.

If he isnt a pedo, then he sure lives the lifestyle of one.

Here is the artical on his "secret room".. its really sick.
http://icnorthernireland.icnetwork.co.uk/news/national/content_objectid=13648152_method=full_siteid=91603 _headline=-Jacko-s-Secret-Room-Revealed-name_page.html

**Wyzcrak** · 11-21-2003, 06:59 PM

I remind myself regularly that I'm ignorant on sooo many fronts. I don't know anything about Michael Jackson, the man. I don't know anything about this child. I don't know anything about this child's parents. I also don't know how much anyone else knows about these people. Perhaps others have studied this situation in depth and know quite a bit about it all.

I know what it feels like to be accused of doing something, only to discover that droves of people who in fact are ignorant on sooo many fronts have already convicted you in their opinions.

I hope that the truth is found, and that this child's security is preserved. And, regardless of the truth, I hope that parents considering sending their children to play alone with a grown man suspected of sexual assaults on children will consider more carefully the risks involved.

Wyzcrak

**_Ender_** · 11-21-2003, 07:06 PM

Dont you just want to slap the parents while yelling "What the f#$# where you thinking?!?!?"

**Wyzcrak** · 11-21-2003, 07:13 PM

I'd like to take the parents to the zoo. As we drive there, we'd discuss BoBo the Ape, and how the last five interns that maintained her living area claimed they were violently assaulted by BoBo while they were working, but that none of the claims could ever be proven.

Then, when we get to the zoo, I want to invite the parents to go inside BoBo's living area and play with BoBo.

I wonder if the parents would go in.

Wyzcrak

**_Ender_** · 11-21-2003, 07:15 PM

11-21-2003, 07:18 PM

I agree 100% with Wyz.

I think Jackson is different, yet innocent until proven guilty. End of story.

**_Ender_** · 11-21-2003, 08:03 PM

How can one prove guilt or innocence when they keep buying the witnesses? I would be all for it also, but he, and others like him, tend to buy off the witness before they testify.

**Wyzcrak** · 11-21-2003, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Ender_

How can one prove guilt or innocence when they keep buying the witnesses? I would be all for it also, but he, and others like him, tend to buy off the witness before they testify.

Without charges, there is no guilt or innocence to be legally proven.

Wyzcrak

**_Ender_** · 11-21-2003, 09:58 PM

Ahh so he can continue to play with little boys and nothing will get done. God, gotta love the legal system in this country.

**Wyzcrak** · 11-21-2003, 11:33 PM

That's not the fault of the legal system. That's the fault of the parents who decide that 12.8 million dollars is more important than the sanctity of the childhood and sexuality of their child and every other child that's ever been sexually assaulted or abused.

Wyzcrak

**phyllis** · 11-21-2003, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Ender_

Dont you just want to slap the parents while yelling "What the f#$# where you thinking?!?!?"

YES!! :evil: Plus smack the snot out of the parents a few years ago, that decided that money (the payoff out of court, which was nothing more than buying their silence) was a better option than going through with a trial, therefore letting him free to do whatever he does with little boys :evil: I just don't see where accepting the money was the better option, except for their own lifestyles sake.... :?

11-21-2003, 06:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
_Ender_ Join Date: May 2003 Location: I am lost, if you know where I am then please feel free to tell me. Age: 29 Posts: 2,048	and now for something really different.. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=638&e=1&u=/nm/20031121/en_nm/people_jackson_dc I kinda feel bad for him but he was sort of asking for it. I also dont think he is totally to blame, this kids parents need to get a reality check also.. Thoughts, feelings, think he did it, think its bull****?

11-21-2003, 06:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
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11-21-2003, 07:15 PM	#9 (permalink)
_Ender_ Join Date: May 2003 Location: I am lost, if you know where I am then please feel free to tell me. Age: 29 Posts: 2,048	LOL!

11-21-2003, 06:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
_Ender_ Join Date: May 2003 Location: I am lost, if you know where I am then please feel free to tell me. Age: 29 Posts: 2,048	So you have no opinion on this until the verdict?

11-21-2003, 06:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
_Ender_ Join Date: May 2003 Location: I am lost, if you know where I am then please feel free to tell me. Age: 29 Posts: 2,048	<I'm bored so I'm here refreshing this forum until somebody replys ) I'm kinda with wolfie on this one. I mean, have you seen this guys.. umm.. well MJ's life style? It screams pedo. He has a secret room in one of his closets that is basically a boys room. Its really weird and sick and a bunch of other stuff. If he isnt a pedo, then he sure lives the lifestyle of one. Here is the artical on his "secret room".. its really sick. http://icnorthernireland.icnetwork.co.uk/news/national/content_objectid=13648152_method=full_siteid=91603 _headline=-Jacko-s-Secret-Room-Revealed-name_page.html

11-21-2003, 06:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
Wyzcrak Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,139	I remind myself regularly that I'm ignorant on sooo many fronts. I don't know anything about Michael Jackson, the man. I don't know anything about this child. I don't know anything about this child's parents. I also don't know how much anyone else knows about these people. Perhaps others have studied this situation in depth and know quite a bit about it all. I know what it feels like to be accused of doing something, only to discover that droves of people who in fact are ignorant on sooo many fronts have already convicted you in their opinions. I hope that the truth is found, and that this child's security is preserved. And, regardless of the truth, I hope that parents considering sending their children to play alone with a grown man suspected of sexual assaults on children will consider more carefully the risks involved. Wyzcrak

11-21-2003, 07:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
_Ender_ Join Date: May 2003 Location: I am lost, if you know where I am then please feel free to tell me. Age: 29 Posts: 2,048	Dont you just want to slap the parents while yelling "What the f#$# where you thinking?!?!?"

11-21-2003, 07:13 PM	#8 (permalink)
Wyzcrak Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,139	I'd like to take the parents to the zoo. As we drive there, we'd discuss BoBo the Ape, and how the last five interns that maintained her living area claimed they were violently assaulted by BoBo while they were working, but that none of the claims could ever be proven. Then, when we get to the zoo, I want to invite the parents to go inside BoBo's living area and play with BoBo. I wonder if the parents would go in. Wyzcrak

11-21-2003, 07:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
Spectre Guest Posts: n/a	I agree 100% with Wyz. I think Jackson is different, yet innocent until proven guilty. End of story.

11-21-2003, 08:03 PM	#11 (permalink)
_Ender_ Join Date: May 2003 Location: I am lost, if you know where I am then please feel free to tell me. Age: 29 Posts: 2,048	How can one prove guilt or innocence when they keep buying the witnesses? I would be all for it also, but he, and others like him, tend to buy off the witness before they testify.

11-21-2003, 09:58 PM	#13 (permalink)
_Ender_ Join Date: May 2003 Location: I am lost, if you know where I am then please feel free to tell me. Age: 29 Posts: 2,048	Ahh so he can continue to play with little boys and nothing will get done. God, gotta love the legal system in this country.

11-21-2003, 11:33 PM	#14 (permalink)
Wyzcrak Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,139	That's not the fault of the legal system. That's the fault of the parents who decide that 12.8 million dollars is more important than the sanctity of the childhood and sexuality of their child and every other child that's ever been sexually assaulted or abused. Wyzcrak

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