Top 10 worst paying jobs - Page 2

Wintermute · 11-27-2003, 05:33 PM

pft, even the poor in both out countries have good jobs. Try being a rice farmer in Asia, or a cocoa grower in S America. There is no welfare state or minimum wage, whilest EU subsidies guarantee poor prices for the export of many crops.

Juggernaut · 11-27-2003, 10:53 PM

no you dont have to pay overtime to minors but most places do just cause they need the workers and are glad to pay it

**CingularDuality** · 11-27-2003, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Juggernaut

no you dont have to pay overtime to minors but most places do just cause they need the workers and are glad to pay it

In the United States, time and a half must be paid for any work over 40 hours with few exceptions... Being a minor, AFAIK, is not one of those exceptions.

**CingularDuality** · 11-27-2003, 11:02 PM

Juggernaut · 11-27-2003, 11:13 PM

you also have to remember what do most minors do and can only do retail or service establishments or babysitting motion picture theaters and these are exempt from overtime and one dosen't even get minimum wage

Juggernaut · 11-27-2003, 11:14 PM

http://www.dol.gov/asp/programs/guide/minwage.htm

Juggernaut · 11-27-2003, 11:22 PM

see i told you

**_Ender_** · 11-27-2003, 11:26 PM

Give Dave sometime. He will make a come back.. he always does.

Juggernaut · 11-27-2003, 11:29 PM

ok no prob i will wait till tomarrow

Juggernaut · 11-27-2003, 11:33 PM

**_Ender_** · 11-27-2003, 11:36 PM

Actually he's probably reading my reply in the "Town requres guns in home" thread and asking himself wtf I was smoking today :P

Juggernaut · 11-27-2003, 11:40 PM

yeah what were you smoking????

**CingularDuality** · 11-28-2003, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Juggernaut

you also have to remember what do most minors do and can only do retail or service establishments or babysitting motion picture theaters and these are exempt from overtime and one dosen't even get minimum wage

You need to read a bit more... While you're correct that babysitter's don't get a minimum wage, you're incorrect to say that retail workers, service workers or theater (local cineplex) workers don't legally rate overtime.

The FLSA website gives examples of jobs that are exempt from conforming with FLSA, but they don't do a very good job of explaining exactly why or under which circumstances those jobs are excepted...

Let me know when you've read and understand FLSA (good luck, I know lawyers and union reps that've been in the business for dozens of years that can't give me a definitive answer). Some things are black and white, others are open to interpretation.

Juggernaut · 11-28-2003, 12:22 AM

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Certain commissioned employees of retail or service establishments;

Employees of motion picture theaters; and

Employees of certain seasonal amusement or recreational establishments;

Employees engaged in newspaper delivery

Farmworkers.

Auto, truck, or farm implement parts‑clerks and mechanics employed by non‑manufacturing establishments primarily engaged in selling these items to ultimate purchasers

these are what most teens or minors DO and yes i did read it no I still have my smirk now you can get ride of yours

**CingularDuality** · 11-28-2003, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Juggernaut

in black and white Im gonna play NS now

Yes, but evidently you didn't read it very carefully, nor did you bother to read the actual statute.

Let's take a deep breath, realize that we don't always understand what we read, and wipe the silly smug look off our face. There, that's better.

Commissioned workers, for obvious reasons, don't fall under the overtime laws. In fact, I think most of the salespeople at Circuit Shack and The Best Buys that work on commission are independant contractors with the parent company instead of being employees. I dunno 'bout that, though...

Babysitting is the one you got right, and its excepted service is, again, for obvious reasons. Traditionally babysitting is performed by teenagers before they get a "real" job, and DOL defines "babysitting" and "daycare" MUCH differently, so no worries there...

Projectionests at your local theater are excepted, but are the numbnuts behind the counter trying to sell you a box of candy for $18.95 excepted as well? Let's see just how much you know about FLSA, Juggy. I heard you are "teh mastar"...

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11-27-2003, 11:13 PM	#20 (permalink)
Juggernaut Join Date: May 2003 Location: Omaha, Ne Age: 22 Posts: 218	you also have to remember what do most minors do and can only do retail or service establishments or babysitting motion picture theaters and these are exempt from overtime and one dosen't even get minimum wage __________________ [TG]Juggernaut[22nd Onos] Angelici Mortui ";aM;" Angelici mortuorum

11-27-2003, 11:14 PM	#21 (permalink)
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11-27-2003, 11:22 PM	#22 (permalink)
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11-27-2003, 10:53 PM	#17 (permalink)
Juggernaut Join Date: May 2003 Location: Omaha, Ne Age: 22 Posts: 218	no you dont have to pay overtime to minors but most places do just cause they need the workers and are glad to pay it

11-27-2003, 11:26 PM	#23 (permalink)
_Ender_ Join Date: May 2003 Location: I am lost, if you know where I am then please feel free to tell me. Age: 29 Posts: 2,048	Give Dave sometime. He will make a come back.. he always does.

11-27-2003, 11:29 PM	#24 (permalink)
Juggernaut Join Date: May 2003 Location: Omaha, Ne Age: 22 Posts: 218	ok no prob i will wait till tomarrow

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Juggernaut Join Date: May 2003 Location: Omaha, Ne Age: 22 Posts: 218	lol __________________ [TG]Juggernaut[22nd Onos] Angelici Mortui ";aM;" Angelici mortuorum

11-27-2003, 11:36 PM	#26 (permalink)
_Ender_ Join Date: May 2003 Location: I am lost, if you know where I am then please feel free to tell me. Age: 29 Posts: 2,048	Actually he's probably reading my reply in the "Town requres guns in home" thread and asking himself wtf I was smoking today :P

11-27-2003, 11:40 PM	#27 (permalink)
Juggernaut Join Date: May 2003 Location: Omaha, Ne Age: 22 Posts: 218	yeah what were you smoking????

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