USN_Squid

Very often board members are nothing more than figure heads chosen for their fame and/or credibility to lend confidence to stock holders that there is some guidance given to the CEO and other actual decision makers. Board members don't always run the business. Frequently board members are members of several companies' boards and just show up once a year to collect a check.

This isn't always the case, and whether it is at KEPO I can't say.

DudeMan

NEED I SAY MORE....

Wolfie

Hehe, if you think for a second about the title he had too.....

"Non-executive Director"

Director = of a group of persons entrusted with the overall direction of a corporate enterprise

executive = having administrative or managerial responsibility

So once you add non to the title, he was a director that had no powers :P

CingularDuality

Someone asked why we aren't dealing with N.Korea like we are Afghanistan and Iraq....

Obviously we can't be everywhere at once. We have to prioritize our missions. Oil obviosly helps bump middle eastern countries up the priority list. Something that isn't mentioned here, but I believe is the main reason why we haven't done anything more serious in Korea is that N. Korea is China's little bastard stepchild. China will kick N. Korea's ass, once they realize that we're not going in....

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jex

Wow you guys should join the bush spin team lol

Why are you justifying their position by making up statements that you don't know are true or not? We don't know china will do anything or that rumsfeld had no powers because you think the title means something. All I've done is supplied fact with a little bit of opinion for a different view point. Most if not all replies I've had back are opinion trying to justify the actions.

leejo

Why are you griping about our involvement in Iraq by suggesting that we should be invading MORE countries? Doesn't that sound at all preposterous to you? What do you want?

Iran, N. Norea, Syria, et. al. are on the short list, I believe. Just because they haven't been invaded doesn't mean some sweet deal's been struck.

jex

I never suggested we should invade more countries. You may be mistaking me with dude - we have the same logo lol - I hope everyone else realises this because if not then I may be having discussions with the wrong people, as may have dude lol

As to your list - what about Saudi, Uzbekistan, Kuwait, zimbabwe? So you'd agree it is an invasion then?

DudeMan

i think you are also guilty of this jex, as illustrated on the subject you really didnt have all the facts and the oposing argument did.. not that im condoning useless arguments...

by the way, i have to say i agree with cing. why fight korea, they are a puppy, iraq could hold the world to ransom with oil, now they cant and all middle east couintries will think 4 times before they decide to cross us again.

korea will get what is comming to them however a war may not be the best way to do it, i dont know... but the leader of korea is not as bad as sadam, at least clinton made some progress with him

but it does need a more hardline, hopefully bush can impliment

leejo

The times are a-changin', and I believe that more governments will fall, one way or another, before things settle down.

3000 of our people were murdered right in front of the world. I don't have respect for any President who wouldn't roll up his sleeves after that. If our actions make a lot of people jumpy, I'm sorry, but I don't think we have time to be as polite or patient as we might otherwise be.

We can't invade everywhere all at once, and I don't think we should. When diplomatic pressure gets results, I thank God. When the decision of which country to invade next comes along, I trust that the powers that be consider which country poses the greatest threat and which action will yeild the greatest positive results.

I do think that when we all see the people of Iraq joyfully participating in fair and free elections it will move our souls and change that part of the world.

jex

I don't see your point leejo. How many innocent poeple have died since then, a lot more than 3000, or are you saying that because they were foreigners it doesn't matter as long as Bush kicked butt?

And they weren't 'your' people. Many other nationalities were in the building at the time, not just americans. But I don't see how that equates to invading Iraq?

Dude, I provided facts which I also had to give some sort of opinion on. My point is that most replies to my posts have lacked anything other than opinion.

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DudeMan

well i disagree with you jex wholly i have seen some evidence from both cinq and wolfie and i think it easily out wieghed yours..

i am with leejo on this, yes jex when it is put down to the point where it is them or us. we will win and we will kill whoever is in the way. for god sake man the only reason they are attacking our culture is because we are developed and they feel that as clinton has done, we will sit doen and talk. im sorry jex but the hard truth is, that when something like this is done to a country who then that country must fight back.

i feel for the families of those who were killied in iraq but i am sorry given the given the choice i choose us. may seem harsh but a gurilla war is and if thses cowadly terrorists choose to put their fellow public at risk then so beit. we will not back down or we loose to mob rule.

USN_Squid

and moveon.org called thanking you for your lifetime membership...

To me, you present your opinions as fact. So my responses have been an attempt to show you that there may be other possibilities besides what you believe to be true. Also some facts with opinion.

jex

Well I just went back through this thread and find nothing I've said as opinion unless it is to the information I have provided. I haven't seen any other facts - just opinion as to why people have done what, based on one's belief. I may have missed something though. Wolfie is the only one here to provide any information to which he is looking for some links.

Dude I'm wondering if you'd support a UK bombing run on the US or Ireland because certain factions there helped the IRA with funding. How many UK residents have died at their hands and yet we don't go on some revenge run. I don't think it's fair or hounarable to kill innocent people because of this. Saddam was cruel to his people because they didn't do what he wanted and he exacted his revenge on them.

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Wolfie

There is a difference though. UK can request the US to help combat any US organizations that help fund the IRA terrorist bombings and the US will comply. Asking SH to not fund terrorists attacking the US/Iran/Kuwait/Saudia Arabia/UK/western Europe/etc is an entirely different manner.

Remember the Taliban? We asked them to turn over OBL to face judgment for his crimes against the American people and they refused to. See where they are today?

leejo

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/735tahyk.asp