London bombings - Page 3

**DudeMan** · 07-07-2005, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperSteve

I just got to work and read about it on MSN. It's really messed up. They picked the spot though, there is no way they would have pulled it off in america. I'm really supised that they could in the UK.

It's a messed up world. Disregard for human life makes me sick. How someone could do something like that is beyond me.

hmmm no in america they hyjack planes, that statement is a little strange, lets put some perspective on this, the devices used, are believed to be very small, (because of the restrictions we have on explosive materials and sale of. this is not half as bad as it could have been,

the problem is, here there and all over the world, suicide bombers are very difficult to protect, its a misconception to think we could have known or stopped this attack, infact we have said for years, be prepared, a majour terrorist attack is a matter of when not if.

**DudeMan** · 07-07-2005, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by asch

What strikes me as odd was that this wasn't suicide bombings from what I can tell. I thought the al queda attacks have all been suicide up until this one... and the statement of a "secret cell of al queda" seems weird.

actually, reports are still mixed, and i dont expect to know the full truth until 2-3 days possibly a week. but it is suspected that the bus blast was a suicide bomber, and noone knows about the tube bombings yet. its all speculation right now.

**DudeMan** · 07-07-2005, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Overlag

Londoners have been through this for years and really nothing has changed. IRA etc. I mean the bomb at canary wolf years ago was propper scary because i FELT it here, 20miles away, and i can see it out of my window.

911 SCARED ME SILLY party because id been seeing it in my dreams for about 6 months before it happend (i also saw this), but and also because of the thought of attack from the sky, which can target anywhere etc. its wierd really. i feel less scared than i did with 911, but then maybe because that was the "change"... from then on nothing was the same.

precisely, dont forget we are acustomed to attacks, and im sure, the regiment (SAS) is looking (as they did in Ireland) to kick someones ass.. just FYI we had special forces, (dont know who possbily SBS) patrolling the thames outside parliament all day, fully armed.

Londoners will be shaken by this, but if there is one thing i have leant living here, and growing up here, its if you attack an Englishmen, he will dig his heels in and fight back everytime. dunkirk, battle of britain, flaklands, during the bombing of london, day to day life continued, (i know i am not witness to this,) but i am witness to canary wharf and the MI5 attack 5 years back. and everytime, the feeling of "if hitler couldnt beat us those bastards wont" (quoted from a collegue) is around every time.

**Overlag** · 07-07-2005, 07:24 PM

and before anyone jumps on either of our backs, me and dudeman are not saying we are "better" than anyone else or that every other country is scared and falls apart when being attacked, we are just saying we've pretty much grown up with it and are "used" to it on our home island and just getting on with things is a very important thing to do as it shows them they are NOT WINNING.

And i like that quote about hitler dudeman.

Ken livinstone's speach:

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“This was a cowardly attack which has resulted in injury and loss of life. Our thoughts are with everyone who has been injured or lost loved ones. I want to thank the emergency services for the way they have responded.

“I’d like to thank Londoners for the calm way in which they have responded to this cowardly attack and echo the advice of the Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair – do everything possible to assist the police and take the advice of the police about getting home today.”

“I have no doubt whatsoever that this is a terrorist attack. We did hope in the first few minutes after hearing about the events on the Underground that it might simply be a maintenance tragedy. That was not the case.

“I want to say one thing specifically to the world today. This was not a terrorist attack against the mighty and the powerful. It was not aimed at presidents or prime ministers.

“It was aimed at ordinary, working-class Londoners, black and white, Muslim and Christian, Hindu and Jew, young and old.

“It was an indiscriminate attempt to slaughter, irrespective of any considerations for age, for class, for religion or whatever.

“That isn’t an ideology, it isn’t even a perverted faith, it is just an indiscriminate attempt at mass murder and we know what the objective is. They seek to divide Londoners. They seek to turn Londoners against each other.

“I said yesterday to the International Olympic Committee that the city of London is the greatest in the world because everybody lives side by side in harmony.

“Londoners will not be divided by the cowardly attack. They will stand together in solidarity alongside those who have been injured and those who have been bereaved and that is why I’m proud to be the Mayor of that city.”

I wish to speak through you directly, to those who came to London to claim lives, nothing you do, how many of us you kill will stop that flight to our cities where freedom is strong and where people can live in harmony with one another, whatever you do, how many you kill, you will fail.

**9 v** · 07-07-2005, 11:21 PM

reporting in, team...

The only dead i am is dead tired. But now, at last a little peace and quiet, and time to reflect on today's shocking events. i can't begin to imagine the pain of those still in hospital and the grief of the friends and families who will have no peace tonight. My thoughts are with them.

IceCold · 07-07-2005, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Boomstick

Apparently a group called the "Secret Organization group of al-Qaeda of Jihad in Europe" claimed responsibility. I couldn't help but laugh, because I can't believe they picked a name as super-villanish as that.

I'm sure the corniness of the name is a result of the translation from Arabic...

It's horrible that another terror attack has been successful. My only hope is that it will wake some people up and remind them that the entire world is at war with these evil terrorists. People have forgotten about September 11th, 2001 and that's not right. Some Americans didn't even hear of the Spanish bombings or know about Russia's problems with muslim extremist terrorists. This needs to motivate the entire world to stand, united, against these thugs.

Wintermute · 07-08-2005, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by IceCold

People have forgotten about September 11th, 2001 and that's not right. Some Americans didn't even hear of the Spanish bombings or know about Russia's problems with muslim extremist terrorists.

No one here has forgotten about September 11th, and we followed news of the Madrid bombings with anxiety, wondering when it would happen to us.

What problems has Russia had? Are you refering to the Chechnyan rebels? That is nothing to do with Al Qaeda and is not done in the name of Islam but seperatism.

**Overlag** · 07-08-2005, 07:22 AM

seeing images of 911 still bearings a tear to my eye. and i still dont believe it happend.

xXDark_StasisXx · 07-08-2005, 11:34 AM

Terrorist attacks are definitely not a new idea. They have been around since the invention of explosives and aren't something to be protected from. No matter the amount of security we have in any airport, bus station, port, mall, football game, etc. we will never be able to prevent an attack like this. I see the issue of terrorists as an issue that has the ability to bring all the free countries of the world together, to fight this common enemy. Every single free country has terrorists in its woodwork, like termites gnawing away at the supports of our lives. We need to step up and come together in this hour of need because its not only the UK or France that need us, it's everyone. This is the world's opportunity to really strike back at terrorism and "fight the good fight" because every single day, these terrorists are getting stronger and smarter and eventually it will become a bigger threat to our world than any natural thing like global warming. I see these times as the right times to put our prioritues straight and stop the eternal leapfrog of the arms race and put other, smaller prblems aside for another time. The trouble in the Middle East right now stems from the large poulation of terrorist organizations such as al-Qaueda. We now have the power and the public awareness that is required to as someone else has probably said before,"annihilate these sons o' bitches". I say that every person here has a responsibility to do something about this, not for ourselves, but for the furture generations of the world because this problem will eventually escalate into daily car bombs and annual nukes going off in cities. We as citizens of a free world all have a duty and a responisbility to stop it. Just like our fathers, grandfathers, and even great-grandfathers fought against Hitler and his "master race" we too have a fight on our hands. Except our battle a religous one. We cannot have radicals tear apart our society and acheive their one true goal that is so obvious it's is often missed; terror. It is apparent even in ths forum alone that they've had several small victories which is several too many for by my standards. I am devoting my life to this cause and I can only hope that many of you will do the same because we need help because the terrorists have penty of help themselves.

|TG|StAsIs

P.S.-Sorry for the long post, please take the time to read it.

warcriminal2 · 07-08-2005, 02:58 PM

No matter where u live the fact remains, there are cowards among us. Attacks like these can occur anywhere in WESTERN SOCIETY but the fact that this attack happened in the UK makes this AMERICAN'S BLOOD BOIL! My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and their families and may they find some comfort in knowing that AMERICA is with you.

Drew S.
San Jose, California

Dirt013 · 07-08-2005, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by warcriminal2

Attacks like these can occur anywhere in WESTERN SOCIETY but the fact that this attack happened in the UK makes this AMERICAN'S BLOOD BOIL!

Agreed....we have a closer tie with England than any other Country in the world, and rightly so. when all else fails...i feel we can count on the Brits to stand with us...and vice versa. i have no doubt that you will face this tragedy with your usual steadfast grace...our thoughts and prayers are with you.

Dirt013

good to hear from you 9v.

EZKill · 07-09-2005, 04:02 PM

My prayers are also with the families and friends of the victims of this tragedy.

Don't know where UK TG members lives, but it was nice to see 9v online last night. Hoping to see the rest of you soon.

**DudeMan** · 07-09-2005, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by warcriminal2

No matter where u live the fact remains, there are cowards among us. Attacks like these can occur anywhere in WESTERN SOCIETY but the fact that this attack happened in the UK makes this AMERICAN'S BLOOD BOIL! My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and their families and may they find some comfort in knowing that AMERICA is with you.

Drew S.
San Jose, California

yes, i like this post, its important to see, that while the french and germans say they are with us on terrorism, the nations who truely know terrorism in its rawest form (9-11) and countless IRA attacks in the UK are and have always been on this issue side by side.

and i dont know who said it here, probably everyone at some point. when terror strikes, and tries to drive a wedge of fear in the hearts of all in our democracies, all we can do is unite to smash the threat to our way of life and what we hold so dear. as long as there are countries like ours, terrorists will be outnumbered out matched and ultimatly beaten.

and cingular duality, noone here has forgotten 9/11 just as i have not forgotten omagh, canary wharf, the beslan school, bali, american embassy in turky, etc etc. terrorism will be destroyed. thats what is a matter of when and not if.

on a side note, overlag, my sentiments exactly about the national thing, and also i hate ken livingstone but man you could tell he was pissed when he said that, and i truely believe it was meant and not just cue carded.

**DudeMan** · 07-09-2005, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by EZKill

My prayers are also with the families and friends of the victims of this tragedy.

Don't know where UK TG members lives, but it was nice to see 9v online last night. Hoping to see the rest of you soon.

i live in london, and missed the blast at algate east by about 30-60 minutes, i have to be at work early, but with my last jobe i would have been smack dab in the center of the explosion.

but i still travel on the tube, the day ofter i was at work as normal, infact when all else were evacuating, i couldnt, i am a security guard at one of londons biggest landmarks, battersea powerstation. (biggest in size not most famous) so we were on high alert.

i (with the help of 3 other guards) arrested 2 guys today tresspassing on the site, with big rucksacks, 2 middle-eastern guys, i didnt know that till we got them, we coordinated a plan to cut them off, and when we got close we craped ourselfs, in any case we arested them (citizens arest) and then called the police, special bracnch and the anti terror squad were there within 5 minutes of the call, with a navy helo, very exciting but also scary, it hit me after that these guys could have been the real deal,

we think they were students trying to get pics of the station, for their course, but they were arrested under section 28 of the anti terror act anyway, and taken for interrogation.

just thought id say this, just because its mildly relevent, and the most exciting thing that happened today.

**CingularDuality** · 07-09-2005, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Wintermute

No one here has forgotten about September 11th, and we followed news of the Madrid bombings with anxiety, wondering when it would happen to us.

What problems has Russia had? Are you refering to the Chechnyan rebels? That is nothing to do with Al Qaeda and is not done in the name of Islam but seperatism.

I don't think anyone here has forgotten, but society in general (at least in America), has forgotten... People are back to complaining about the crappiest little things...

The war on terror is a global war. This isn't something to dismiss so lightly. I think that history will show that this war ranks right up there with every other war you've read about in your world history book. It's not about Al Queda, or Iraq, or Chechen rebels. It's about using terror to accomplish your goals. We're not talking about "freedom fighters" here. We're talking about people that strike fear into the heart of civilians in order to try to attain their goals.

That's what they tried to do in London, but it's not going to work. We, you and I and every American and Briton, won't let them.

07-07-2005, 11:21 PM	#35 (permalink)
9 v Join Date: Dec 2004 Age: 43 Posts: 642	Re: London bombings reporting in, team... The only dead i am is dead tired. But now, at last a little peace and quiet, and time to reflect on today's shocking events. i can't begin to imagine the pain of those still in hospital and the grief of the friends and families who will have no peace tonight. My thoughts are with them.

07-08-2005, 07:22 AM	#38 (permalink)
Overlag Join Date: May 2003 Location: NE Outer London, UK Age: 26 Posts: 1,540	Re: London bombings seeing images of 911 still bearings a tear to my eye. and i still dont believe it happend. __________________ From Adam Webb

07-08-2005, 11:34 AM	#39 (permalink)
xXDark_StasisXx Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Florida Age: 19 Posts: 47	Re: London bombings Terrorist attacks are definitely not a new idea. They have been around since the invention of explosives and aren't something to be protected from. No matter the amount of security we have in any airport, bus station, port, mall, football game, etc. we will never be able to prevent an attack like this. I see the issue of terrorists as an issue that has the ability to bring all the free countries of the world together, to fight this common enemy. Every single free country has terrorists in its woodwork, like termites gnawing away at the supports of our lives. We need to step up and come together in this hour of need because its not only the UK or France that need us, it's everyone. This is the world's opportunity to really strike back at terrorism and "fight the good fight" because every single day, these terrorists are getting stronger and smarter and eventually it will become a bigger threat to our world than any natural thing like global warming. I see these times as the right times to put our prioritues straight and stop the eternal leapfrog of the arms race and put other, smaller prblems aside for another time. The trouble in the Middle East right now stems from the large poulation of terrorist organizations such as al-Qaueda. We now have the power and the public awareness that is required to as someone else has probably said before,"annihilate these sons o' bitches". I say that every person here has a responsibility to do something about this, not for ourselves, but for the furture generations of the world because this problem will eventually escalate into daily car bombs and annual nukes going off in cities. We as citizens of a free world all have a duty and a responisbility to stop it. Just like our fathers, grandfathers, and even great-grandfathers fought against Hitler and his "master race" we too have a fight on our hands. Except our battle a religous one. We cannot have radicals tear apart our society and acheive their one true goal that is so obvious it's is often missed; terror. It is apparent even in ths forum alone that they've had several small victories which is several too many for by my standards. I am devoting my life to this cause and I can only hope that many of you will do the same because we need help because the terrorists have penty of help themselves. \|TG\|StAsIs P.S.-Sorry for the long post, please take the time to read it. __________________ Connor: We haven't really got a system of deciding who, Roc. It's, uh... Rocco: Me! Me! I'm the guy! I know everyone! Their habits, who they hang out with, who they talk to! I've got phone numbers, addresses! I know who they're screwing! I know where they live! We could kill everyone. Murphy: So what do you think? Connor: I'm strangely comfortable with it. The Boondock Saints

07-08-2005, 02:58 PM	#40 (permalink)
warcriminal2 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: norCAL Posts: 181	Cowards No matter where u live the fact remains, there are cowards among us. Attacks like these can occur anywhere in WESTERN SOCIETY but the fact that this attack happened in the UK makes this AMERICAN'S BLOOD BOIL! My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and their families and may they find some comfort in knowing that AMERICA is with you. Drew S. San Jose, California __________________ Warcriminal chillin n' killin wit authoritaaaaa!!

07-09-2005, 04:02 PM	#42 (permalink)
EZKill Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Lemoyne, PA US Posts: 27	Re: London bombings My prayers are also with the families and friends of the victims of this tragedy. Don't know where UK TG members lives, but it was nice to see 9v online last night. Hoping to see the rest of you soon.

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