Politically incorrect Tshirt - Page 10

**leejo** · 07-21-2005, 05:41 PM

I don't disagree with Squid's observations, but we seem to be making progress by capturing or intercepting communications records and looking at patterns of behavior. If I learn that my 24 year old white-boy neighbor converts to Islam and takes a trip to Pakistan, I'm going to let my main man Cing know about it.

Rahn · 07-21-2005, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck Fush

Wow, you just described 90% of the programers I work with.

If one of them comes into work looking a little "heavy", hit the deck.

; P

**leejo** · 07-21-2005, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck Fush

Wow, you just described 90% of the programers I work with.

Ha! A few years ago the company where I was at the time gave everyone a Cajun Fried Turkey (mild) for Thanksgiving, not thinking for a second that the 60% of their staff who were Hindu or Buddhist might not like to get a dead bird as a present.

**DudeMan** · 07-21-2005, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by improbablecause

. Actually, I think you'd be surprised how much of what I said rings true. Come on, from the typical Muslim terrorist descriptions, to the insulting of an entire race/religion, to the lack of sympathy for the average Muslim... it can all be seen in this thread alone.

no actually i cant, i can see you giving your opinion of what others have infered, even though they have expressed the oposite.

and i think on this we are going to have to agree to disagree because i am not buying what you are saying, to me it seems you want to do absolutly nothing with regards to stepped up security, or worse you want us to have some quota of how many ethnic and white people you search. as i said before i think thats just wasting resources

**TheFeniX** · 07-21-2005, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rahn

I never said anything about Christians, you brought them into the conversation in the first place.

As a point that everyone seems to be focusing on the religious practices of these people. Hence, I am allowed to introduce a counter-point example.

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Right now, it's EVERYONE against these radicals.

Everyone? Including Tibetan monks and Etheopians?

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Also, you seem to think the world is black and white...you block the shades of gray, for what reason I cannot fathom.

Ha!
I'm not the one claiming:
"we = good"
"they = bad"

I recognize that America is doing the right thing for the wrong reasons.

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Why do you care about why these Muslims are lopping off heads and not care why we dropped the A-bomb? I mean you chose to make the comparison but don't want to get any deeper because....?

We dropped the bomb to stop the war. Why exactly do you think the insurgents are killing civilians? Because they don't want casualties in fighting with military forces, so they'll take the easy way to try and get us out (hence: stop the war).

But they're filthy Muslims so them cowardly killing 50 (or however many) civilians is much worse than us turning two heavily populated cities into wastelands. And you think getting your head cut-off sucks? Try being outside the vaporization blast (which isn't that large at all) of an Atomic weapon walking around blind, deaf, and on fire until you finally succumb to the burns.

But it's ok because we were trying to stop the war, but it's not ok for the insurgents to because....

**leejo** · 07-21-2005, 10:34 PM

Well like I said I want to kill them so, you know, it might be hazardous to one's health to hang out or live next to a terrorist. Maybe you should drop a dime and leave town. Get the message folks?

In fact, we announced that we were going into Falluja a week in advance to give the civilians a chance to get out. I suppose the good people of Falluja might have interpreted that as a "7-day give up the goods on their locations so we don't have to destroy your city" message if they'd been a little more on the ball or less sympathetic to the insurgents, but hey. I'm sure other cities will know what to do next time.

Man, I'm telling you, it's on. We're at war. Being next to one of the people we're after is very hazardous to your health. We try pretty unbelievably hard to avoid killing bystanders but that doesn't mean anyone's letting those guys loose once they're caught.

Yeah, your point about how much worse than a cut-off head we can make someone's day is exactly the message.

Rahn · 07-22-2005, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFeniX

As a point that everyone seems to be focusing on the religious practices of these people. Hence, I am allowed to introduce a counter-point example.

I don't see a counter point, I see a moot point.

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Originally Posted by TheFeniX

Everyone? Including Tibetan monks and Etheopians?

Eventually, if we and our allies decide to let these people roam free and do what they like...eventually they will be knocking down their doors. So, yes, everyone is against them. Maybe not now but if we fail, eventually.

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Originally Posted by TheFeniX

We dropped the bomb to stop the war. Why exactly do you think the insurgents are killing civilians? Because they don't want casualties in fighting with military forces, so they'll take the easy way to try and get us out (hence: stop the war).

If you research a bit, you'll see that they are killing civilians in masses because these people are trying to make a living and it just so happens that the current work is for America and their contractors. These people are being killed because they are "working with/for infidels" and there for must die. They arn't killing them to win "battles" against America.

Do you really think these radicals think that by kidnapping, assasinating and such is the way to make America leave? No, they see it as their "religious duty".

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Originally Posted by TheFeniX

But it's ok because we were trying to stop the war, but it's not ok for the insurgents to because....

It's not ok for insurgents because these are people caught in the middle. These people that are having their heads cut off are not attacking us OR the insurgents. That is why it is wrong.

Dirt013 · 07-22-2005, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rahn

Do you really think these radicals think that by kidnapping, assasinating and such is the way to make America leave? No, they see it as their "religious duty".

Actually, that's exactly why they are committing these acts....and it works. Italy paid the damn insurgents to free a captive AND pulled out part of their military. wonder what the insurgents did with the money? bet it contributed to the death of American soldiers. (That Really Pisses Me Off!) you don't think this strategy is working? aren't there Americans calling for us to get out of Iraq? America can't handle casualties, and the terrorists know it....all they have to do is keep it up and we WILL fold and pull out.

Dirt013

my brother is serving...i worry about him every time he is deployed. i Do Not want him in harms way, but he takes pride in what he does and so do i. (68 combat sorties in Afghanistan and Iraq.) God forbid something should happen to him, but if it did....does anyone think that he would want us to pull out? or that that would solve anything?!?! i, for one, wouldn't be screaming for an exit strategy.

Rahn · 07-22-2005, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirt013

Actually, that's exactly why they are committing these acts....and it works. Italy paid the damn insurgents to free a captive AND pulled out part of their military. wonder what the insurgents did with the money? bet it contributed to the death of American soldiers. (That Really Pisses Me Off!) you don't think this strategy is working? aren't there Americans calling for us to get out of Iraq? America can't handle casualties, and the terrorists know it....all they have to do is keep it up and we WILL fold and pull out.

I'm talking about the deaths that you don't/rarely hear about and see (unless you know where to look, which isnt hard to find) about 10 Iraqi's found dead, shots to the head outside of city X, 23 found dead outside city Y, etc. These people are killed for working with/for the Americans...no money or anything is gained in these killings, well the radicals think they're doing something...

I give it the next few attacks, unless one big one happens again but once we get like London and have bombings/attempted bombings in NYC every week, I'm hoping atleast that my generation gets it's ****ing lazy ass in gear and man up to stomp these muj's and make them realize that America isn't Russia and they're ****ing with a whole different group of people.

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Originally Posted by Dirt013

my brother is serving...i worry about him every time he is deployed. i Do Not want him in harms way, but he takes pride in what he does and so do i. (68 combat sorties in Afghanistan and Iraq.) God forbid something should happen to him, but if it did....does anyone think that he would want us to pull out? or that that would solve anything?!?! i, for one, wouldn't be screaming for an exit strategy.

There shouldn't be an exit strategy and I doubt there will be. We'll put out our forces gradually, city by city, letting the Iraqi forces get a hold of their country. If it doesn't break into civil war...but then we'll just leave what forces we have on the bases we have there now.

**leejo** · 07-22-2005, 07:19 PM

We're not leaving Iraq for a long long time.

Dirt013 · 07-22-2005, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by leejo

We're not leaving Iraq for a long long time.

we will see.

Dirt013

**leejo** · 07-22-2005, 07:40 PM

I don't mean that in a bad way. We will retain the ability to launch a full-scale invasion on Syria and Iran for a long long time.

**CingularDuality** · 07-22-2005, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirt013

we will see.

Well, we're still in Germany and Japan, and it's been over half a century. Leejo's right, we're not going to be out of Iraq for a loooong time.

Dirt013 · 07-22-2005, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CingularDuality

Well, we're still in Germany and Japan, and it's been over half a century. Leejo's right, we're not going to be out of Iraq for a loooong time.

You make a good point Cing...how many troops do we have in Germany? i say pull ALL of our personal out of Europe (and $ from NATO) and use the funds for the War on Terror.

Dirt013

with the exception of the U.K. of course.

**leejo** · 07-22-2005, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirt013

You make a good point Cing...how many troops do we have in Germany? i say pull ALL of our personal out of Europe (and $ from NATO) and use the funds for the War on Terror.

Dirt013

with the exception of the U.K. of course.

Nah those pricks are going to mess around and start bombing other European countries too and then they're going to see how it really is. Those crazy bastards know how to put on a war.

07-21-2005, 05:41 PM	#136 (permalink)
leejo Join Date: Sep 2003 Age: 39 Posts: 7,839	Re: Politically incorrect Tshirt I don't disagree with Squid's observations, but we seem to be making progress by capturing or intercepting communications records and looking at patterns of behavior. If I learn that my 24 year old white-boy neighbor converts to Islam and takes a trip to Pakistan, I'm going to let my main man Cing know about it.

07-21-2005, 10:34 PM	#141 (permalink)
leejo Join Date: Sep 2003 Age: 39 Posts: 7,839	Re: Politically incorrect Tshirt Well like I said I want to kill them so, you know, it might be hazardous to one's health to hang out or live next to a terrorist. Maybe you should drop a dime and leave town. Get the message folks? In fact, we announced that we were going into Falluja a week in advance to give the civilians a chance to get out. I suppose the good people of Falluja might have interpreted that as a "7-day give up the goods on their locations so we don't have to destroy your city" message if they'd been a little more on the ball or less sympathetic to the insurgents, but hey. I'm sure other cities will know what to do next time. Man, I'm telling you, it's on. We're at war. Being next to one of the people we're after is very hazardous to your health. We try pretty unbelievably hard to avoid killing bystanders but that doesn't mean anyone's letting those guys loose once they're caught. Yeah, your point about how much worse than a cut-off head we can make someone's day is exactly the message.

07-22-2005, 07:19 PM	#145 (permalink)
leejo Join Date: Sep 2003 Age: 39 Posts: 7,839	Re: Politically incorrect Tshirt We're not leaving Iraq for a long long time.

07-22-2005, 07:40 PM	#147 (permalink)
leejo Join Date: Sep 2003 Age: 39 Posts: 7,839	Re: Politically incorrect Tshirt I don't mean that in a bad way. We will retain the ability to launch a full-scale invasion on Syria and Iran for a long long time.

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