Need grammar help in a hurry!

Diceman · 10-28-2005, 01:20 PM

Please indicate what is wrong with this sentence, grammatically speaking:

Quote:

So as someone who is responsible for ensuring future generations can actually use the English language, something many of your teachers failed to do.

If your comment is in regards to irony, please wait until 2-3 replies have come in before posting, so as to not hijack the thread before I get my information...

The sooner the better, if you please!

**marstein** · 10-28-2005, 01:23 PM

The end part is missing: "as someone who ..., I <missing>". I would say the sentence is not complete.
Maybe break it up in two: I am responsible for ensuring ..., something many of our teachers fail to do. <and here the missing part:> As that I propose ...

Disclaimer: not native english speaker.

Mateo · 10-28-2005, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diceman

Please indicate what is wrong with this sentence, grammatically speaking:

If your comment is in regards to irony, please wait until 2-3 replies have come in before posting, so as to not hijack the thread before I get my information...

The sooner the better, if you please!

It's only a fragment, and uses colloquial speech.

Better:

As someone who is responsible for ensuring future generations can use the English language, (insert some subject and verb here), which is something many of our teachers failed to do.

Diceman · 10-28-2005, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TG_Mateo

It's only a fragment, and uses colloquial speech.

Brilliant! That's the word I was looking for. Thanks Guys. Hijackers, please feel free to post away.

Steeler · 10-28-2005, 01:36 PM

Yes, it is a fragment. You have two clauses (not including the "so") out of context.

You should have a comma after so or eliminate it altogether depending on the context of the sentence.

"As someone who is responsible for ensuring future generations can actually use the English language - something many of your teachers failed to do - <insert subject verb statement>"

...is another option. You can also use the "teachers" clause in a parenthetical, I think. I don't have my style book in front of me.

.143 Beth© · 10-28-2005, 01:36 PM

What is a hijacker? In the terms you used?

BaneII · 10-28-2005, 01:53 PM

Hijacking a post is the process of going off on a topic unrelated to the original post. For example, heckling instead of helping or talking about how great the english language was back in the old days.

**TG_Bubba** · 10-28-2005, 01:57 PM

Something along the lines of, "What country are you trying to translate from?"

Diceman · 10-28-2005, 02:04 PM

Or, discussing hijacking!

Obi · 10-28-2005, 02:24 PM

I thought it was funny how in the UK we 'overtake' cars but in the US you 'pass' cars.

Pickle · 10-28-2005, 02:29 PM

You also suck on "fags".

.........

Hey, don't get mad at me, that's their speech.

Edit: Fag is a UK term for cigarette.

**Grunt 70** · 10-28-2005, 04:05 PM

bumping this back to topic...

As someone said previously it's fragmented. The wording is balky at best.

Before building a new sentence with the same words I'd ask what it is you are trying to get across. With that understanding in hand, I'd be llikely to rewrite it using more consise language and syntax.

just my .02--since you asked.

**Vulcan** · 10-28-2005, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbym70

bumping this back to topic...

As someone said previously it's fragmented. The wording is balky at best.

Before building a new sentence with the same words I'd ask what it is you are trying to get across. With that understanding in hand, I'd be llikely to rewrite it using more consise language and syntax.

just my .02--since you asked.

This is an attempt to hijack the hijack. This is hijack time, everything is fair in war!

I like ob1one's comment on car's, i wish we used overtake in the states. It's so much cooler.

Mateo · 10-28-2005, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vulcan

This is an attempt to hijack the hijack. This is hijack time, everything is fair in war!

I like ob1one's comment on car's, i wish we used overtake in the states. It's so much cooler.

Just so long as it doesn't include the required use of "lorries", I'm ok with that.

**marstein** · 10-28-2005, 04:50 PM

Overtake is if you pass on the left and undertake is if you pass on the right. I always thought that's how you say it. Right?

10-28-2005, 01:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
marstein Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Half Moon Bay, CA, USA Age: 42 Posts: 828	Re: Need grammar help in a hurry! The end part is missing: "as someone who ..., I <missing>". I would say the sentence is not complete. Maybe break it up in two: I am responsible for ensuring ..., something many of our teachers fail to do. <and here the missing part:> As that I propose ... Disclaimer: not native english speaker. __________________ Gigabyte P35-DS3R, 2GB, 8800GTS 640MB, Core2Duo E8400 Last edited by marstein; 10-28-2005 at 01:24 PM. Reason: typo

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Steeler Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Taxachusetts Age: 30 Posts: 2,952	Re: Need grammar help in a hurry! Yes, it is a fragment. You have two clauses (not including the "so") out of context. You should have a comma after so or eliminate it altogether depending on the context of the sentence. "As someone who is responsible for ensuring future generations can actually use the English language - something many of your teachers failed to do - <insert subject verb statement>" ...is another option. You can also use the "teachers" clause in a parenthetical, I think. I don't have my style book in front of me. __________________

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.143 Beth© Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA Age: 21 Posts: 851	Re: Need grammar help in a hurry! What is a hijacker? In the terms you used? __________________

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BaneII Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 2,424	Re: Need grammar help in a hurry! Hijacking a post is the process of going off on a topic unrelated to the original post. For example, heckling instead of helping or talking about how great the english language was back in the old days.

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Grunt 70 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Massachusetts Age: 43 Posts: 2,504	Re: Need grammar help in a hurry! bumping this back to topic... As someone said previously it's fragmented. The wording is balky at best. Before building a new sentence with the same words I'd ask what it is you are trying to get across. With that understanding in hand, I'd be llikely to rewrite it using more consise language and syntax. just my .02--since you asked. __________________ \|TG-22nd\|Grunt "When force is necessary, it must be applied boldly, decisively, and completely. But one must know the limitations of force; one must know when to blend force with maneuver" - Leon Trotsky

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marstein Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Half Moon Bay, CA, USA Age: 42 Posts: 828	Re: Need grammar help in a hurry! Overtake is if you pass on the left and undertake is if you pass on the right. I always thought that's how you say it. Right? __________________ Gigabyte P35-DS3R, 2GB, 8800GTS 640MB, Core2Duo E8400

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