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Re: What John Glenn said...
... the topic presented in the first post. The merits and flaws of this piece of spam mail. I believe Delta originally pointed out the flaws in this section:
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Re: What John Glenn said...
Only a fool would wade into that debate. Here's why:
1) no-one will become more informed or swayed by anything anyone can say at this point 2) no-one knows what the outcome of this conflict will be. History will tell us that. 3) the President was re-elected and will be in charge for another 3 years. The opposition of which you speak is just bitching at this point. It's just so boring. |
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Re: What John Glenn said...
Well here's a tip:
Don't make little sucky sounds or funny voices, even in writing, ever. Don't resort to sarcasm when you are being out-thought and out-argued. Instead, stick to your guns, make your point as clearly and succintly as you can, then shut up, and listen. Then think. |
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Re: What John Glenn said...
What about thinking before you speak?
I always think after, but I try to think before too.
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Re: What John Glenn said...
heh, thanks. You seem that way too sometimes.
Back to 'Work' now. Hafta keep those planes in the air!
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Re: What John Glenn said...
This thread needs a band-aid.
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Re: What John Glenn said...
While the war against Germany was justified and safed the world from a sick ideology and prevented even further crimes against humanity, the war against Iraq does not seem to have such justification. The WMDs never existed, the evidence was tampered with and distorted. The plan for attacking and holding Iraq was and is flawed. It seems the administration had some half-baked dreams of control over oil and dreams of pulling the middle east under the cover of american control. Everything backfired in the most awful way.
The republicans declared victory and 'mission accomplished' and things only went further downhill. There is no success here - just a huge failure. The republicans tried to make it seem as if the Iraq war has something to do with some 'war' against terror. The guys in the administration that were advocating the war had never been in one. Veterans were warning against a war and against the Rumsfeld plan. But the republicans prevailed and now the next administration will be forced to pick up the pieces. Bin Laden has and had nothing to do with Iraq. Bush invaded two countries (Iraq & Afghanistan) to catch Bin Laden and has still not caught him. IMO Iraq is still not taken. No foreigner can move freely in this country. The reps maybe thought it would be easier to invade a country than to steal an election but it turned out wrong. I would also disagree with you on your opinion on people under 21 getting their opinions from liberal proffessors etc - how do you know that? I guess most people get their opinions from the Fox network or from Howard Stern or the big fat idiot (Limbaugh). You grew up in a society that rarely looks beyond it's borders and is very self-centered. The occupation of Iraq is breeding new terrorists at an alarming rate. If your country was occupied by guys claiming you had WMDs and can't find any, you would fight them too - you would be a freedom fighter then. As to terrorist attacks: no one can prove that the security efforts after 9/11 prevented anything. It would have been very easy to blow up hundreds of people in the 'security' lines in the airports. And taking our nail files away (but not the laptops) certainly prevented many attacks But look at the other side. Every day 3000 people die from traffic accidents, 8000 people die from air pollution. [okay I don't know if this is US or world] The emergency response in the US is abysmal, parts of the country are not distinguishable from some family run colony in the third world. Why are billions available for some questionable WMD hunt when the real bad guys (north korea -- no oil) are openly building WMDs (nuclear weapons) while starving their population? And yet the 'war on traffic' or the 'war on air pollution' is not happening! Of course - the people that died in the world trade center are much more important than traffic victims. You can make a lot of money by not investing into clean air. The rich neighborhoods are not downwind from the smokestacks. Well, I am waiting for the attack on north korea. I am waiting for more wars on cars, traffic, disease and air pollution. I would also be interested how the republicans can talk nonstop about freedom while at the same time undermining these same concepts with more and more rigid laws (read 1984?) How they justify giving more and more money to corporations and the super-rich while breeding poverty. Man, what a rant.
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What Time Life said... 1946...
Article from 1946 from our Media that darkly predicted that the US was losing the Peace in Germany. For as much as things change, they stay the same.
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Re: What John Glenn said...
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Re: What John Glenn said...
The Sadest part about this whole thread is it took on the whole aspect of a "election debate". It hasn't been about ideas, enlightenment, or even trying to understand where the other person is coming from. It has been about discounting others by discrediting character or experience. "Facts" have been given out of context and in context with no sense of rhyme or reason. I was hoping to get maybe little bit of knowledge or a better understanding of the issues. But all there was to see was a bunch of mud everywhere.
There have been 3 posts or so that have actually debated ideas in this 5 page thread. There has been a lot of people that don't read what has been written. Heck, I don't even know why I should add my 2 cents but I thought I would. BTW so you don't have to look it up. I am 26 and am current in a Master's Program and one of the most Conservative Universities in the Nation (BYU). I am not brainwashed, in fact, I disagree with a number of my professors. Kemo |
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