Bye Bye Tookie

Buck Fush · 12-13-2005, 04:56 PM

Since we have all kinds here, I figured someone would be able to answer this for me. What's with all of the sympathy for this murderer?

The only travesty I see is that it took 27 years to get him planted. It's sad that more people cry for the perpetrator than the victim. Where were all of you when Albert Owens was dying on a cold storage room floor with (2) 12ga rounds in his back? Were you outside that convienience store crying for him?

All of Tookie's supporters point to the fact that he never admitted to this crime and was therefore innocent; I challenge you to find more than a handfull of incarcerated people who aren't "innocent". One who feels guilty for what they did will own up to it and appologize for it. He never did that.

Tookie was proud of his gang background and he showed that by pretending to be a founder of the Crips till they day he died. Everything he did to the contrary was in an effort to save his life.

--Edited by Buck for clarity.
Sorry, I was in a hurry. Happy Wyz? :P <Where's the emoticon for "Bite Me"?>

**Wyzcrak** · 12-13-2005, 04:57 PM

Line breaks.

Separate your thoughts with line breaks.

Please.

Please.

Mateo · 12-13-2005, 04:59 PM

Wow. Buck comes out of hiding, with venom, and complete disregard for grammar.

Karkianman101 · 12-13-2005, 05:03 PM

I had no trouble reading it, so I shall divulge a translation:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck Fush

Since we have all kinds here, I figured someone would be able to answer this for me.

What's with all of the sympathy for this murderer? The only travesty I see is that it took 27 years to get him planted. It's sad that more people cry for the perpetrator than the victim. Where were all of you when Albert Owens was dying on a cold storage room floor with (2) 12ga rounds in his back? Were you outside that convienience store crying for him?

All of Tookie's supporters point to the fact that he never admitted to this crime and was therefore innocent; I challenge you to find more than a handfull of incarcerated people who aren't "innocent". One who feels guilty for what they did will own up to it and appologize for it. He never did that.

Tookie was proud of his gang background and he showed that by pretending to be a founder of the Crips till they day he died. Everything he did to the contrary was in an effort to save his life.

**Trooper** · 12-13-2005, 05:06 PM

personally i was sicked to see all the support he is given and was given.....it also dint take long for the ACLU or the NAACP to jump on the band wagon...as bill oreily said...
"ACLU and the NAACP only are in the media when they can make themselves look good and others look bad, just like jesse jackson

Mateo · 12-13-2005, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trooper[SNPR]

..as bill oreily said...

As if that sanctimonious schmuck wasn't guilty of the same thing?

**leejo** · 12-13-2005, 05:09 PM

I was hoping that the Gov. would say, simply, "hasta la vista, Tookie."

The argument that he'd redeemed himself was an interesting one, and made me wonder how many people I could kill without consequence if I write a few children's books first...

**leejo** · 12-13-2005, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TG_Mateo

As if that sanctimonious schmuck wasn't guilty of the same thing?

Naw man, he's looking out for you.

Steel_Penguin · 12-13-2005, 05:11 PM

I feel for the victim but i disagree with the death penalty on priciple. I think his actions while in prison show at least some reform.

And thanks for the translation Kark

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slugslinger · 12-13-2005, 05:12 PM

RIP to the father of the Crips!

Steel_Penguin · 12-13-2005, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TG_Mateo

As if that sanctimonious schmuck wasn't guilty of the same thing?

Lol. It's sooooooo easy you poke fun at him. Have any of you seen the Colbert Report? Genius stuff

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Steeler · 12-13-2005, 05:17 PM

I think he garnered so much support for several reasons:

a) He is a personality - many are loyal to him.
b) Many oppose the death penalty on principle (as Penguin mentioned).
c) Many people have difficulty seeing the societal value in executing a killer who has recanted and made an effort to reform versus simply imprisoning him for the rest of his life.
d) There is a distinct racial dimension to the case. People frequently draw lines in the sand in these instances.

Buck Fush · 12-13-2005, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slugslinger

RIP to the father of the Crips!

Which I hope is a joke, since he had nothing to do with starting the Crips.

Steel_Penguin · 12-13-2005, 05:20 PM

Where did you get that info? Also, even it his co-founding of the Crips was a lie, i REALLY hope that was a joke. A joke in bad taste either way.

Buck Fush · 12-13-2005, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TG_Mateo

Wow. Buck comes out of hiding, with venom, and complete disregard for grammar.

LOL

And get used to it. I've been very busy these past few months preparing for the new FCC regulations starting Jan 1. I'm starting to get some breathing room now and felt it time to start blessing you guys once again with my insightful writings.

12-13-2005, 04:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
Buck Fush Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 602	Bye Bye Tookie Since we have all kinds here, I figured someone would be able to answer this for me. What's with all of the sympathy for this murderer? The only travesty I see is that it took 27 years to get him planted. It's sad that more people cry for the perpetrator than the victim. Where were all of you when Albert Owens was dying on a cold storage room floor with (2) 12ga rounds in his back? Were you outside that convienience store crying for him? All of Tookie's supporters point to the fact that he never admitted to this crime and was therefore innocent; I challenge you to find more than a handfull of incarcerated people who aren't "innocent". One who feels guilty for what they did will own up to it and appologize for it. He never did that. Tookie was proud of his gang background and he showed that by pretending to be a founder of the Crips till they day he died. Everything he did to the contrary was in an effort to save his life. --Edited by Buck for clarity. Sorry, I was in a hurry. Happy Wyz? :P <Where's the emoticon for "Bite Me"?> Last edited by Buck Fush; 12-13-2005 at 05:16 PM.

12-13-2005, 04:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
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12-13-2005, 04:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
Mateo Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 6,483	Re: Bye Bye Tookie Wow. Buck comes out of hiding, with venom, and complete disregard for grammar.

12-13-2005, 05:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
Trooper Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In my wifes house......if she says i can Age: 25 Posts: 8,559	Re: Bye Bye Tookie personally i was sicked to see all the support he is given and was given.....it also dint take long for the ACLU or the NAACP to jump on the band wagon...as bill oreily said... "ACLU and the NAACP only are in the media when they can make themselves look good and others look bad, just like jesse jackson __________________ that sounds like a good idea trooper. -Vulcan

12-13-2005, 05:09 PM	#7 (permalink)
leejo Join Date: Sep 2003 Age: 39 Posts: 7,524	Re: Bye Bye Tookie I was hoping that the Gov. would say, simply, "hasta la vista, Tookie." The argument that he'd redeemed himself was an interesting one, and made me wonder how many people I could kill without consequence if I write a few children's books first...

12-13-2005, 05:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
Steel_Penguin Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Florida,USA Age: 20 Posts: 1,970	Re: Bye Bye Tookie I feel for the victim but i disagree with the death penalty on priciple. I think his actions while in prison show at least some reform. And thanks for the translation Kark . __________________ _____________________ ---

12-13-2005, 05:12 PM	#10 (permalink)
slugslinger Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 385	Re: Bye Bye Tookie RIP to the father of the Crips! __________________ lTG- 187th MICSlSlugslinger Delta MICS Delta Forces Mobile Infantry & Combat Specilist

12-13-2005, 05:17 PM	#12 (permalink)
Steeler Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Taxachusetts Age: 30 Posts: 2,925	Re: Bye Bye Tookie I think he garnered so much support for several reasons: a) He is a personality - many are loyal to him. b) Many oppose the death penalty on principle (as Penguin mentioned). c) Many people have difficulty seeing the societal value in executing a killer who has recanted and made an effort to reform versus simply imprisoning him for the rest of his life. d) There is a distinct racial dimension to the case. People frequently draw lines in the sand in these instances. __________________

12-13-2005, 05:20 PM	#14 (permalink)
Steel_Penguin Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Florida,USA Age: 20 Posts: 1,970	Re: Bye Bye Tookie Where did you get that info? Also, even it his co-founding of the Crips was a lie, i REALLY hope that was a joke. A joke in bad taste either way. __________________ _____________________ ---

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