Beheading Video - Page 10

**CingularDuality** · 05-18-2004, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Zebra

There was a well-organized effort to spread conspiracy theories about 9/11 that turned out to be bogus, and the questions raised here are of a remarkably similar nature.

I don't think so at all. I'm telling you from personal experience that those hooded men do not behave like your average middle-easterner. That could be because they're worldly arabs. It could be because they're imported terrorists. It could be because they're not even the same type of terrorists that we're trying destroy right now. It could be because of any number of things. All I'm saying is that there is something wrong about that video and most people's perception of what they saw happen in that video.

**Zebra** · 05-19-2004, 06:50 AM

I hope they don't behave like your average middle easterner. If the average middle easterner decapitates people for fun, we're wasting our time over there.

**DudeMan** · 05-19-2004, 11:40 AM

i am a bit confused about your term average middle easterner. the middle east covers eqypt syria iraq palestine.

all seperat countries and all seperate i didentities as a people. there is n o such thing as an avergae middle easterner.

**GhostintheShell** · 05-19-2004, 09:56 PM

It looks as though they might have caught 4 of the people who were involved.

**CingularDuality** · 05-20-2004, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DudeMan

i am a bit confused about your term average middle easterner. the middle east covers eqypt syria iraq palestine.

all seperat countries and all seperate i didentities as a people. there is n o such thing as an avergae middle easterner.

Whatever. You could say that about any group. "There is no average Englishman" "There is no average American" The fact is, there is. And there are certain customs and mannerisms that people throughout the middle east share. Some of these traits are conspicuously absent from that video and traits that you would normally not find in the middle east are present in the video.

If you guys want to accept the video as the media are presenting it, go ahead. I'm merely saying that I don't buy it. It's weird. Too many little things don't match up with the story that's supposed to go along with it.

**DudeMan** · 05-20-2004, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CingularDuality

Whatever. You could say that about any group. "There is no average Englishman" "There is no average American" The fact is, there is. And there are certain customs and mannerisms that people throughout the middle east share. Some of these traits are conspicuously absent from that video and traits that you would normally not find in the middle east are present in the video.

If you guys want to accept the video as the media are presenting it, go ahead. I'm merely saying that I don't buy it. It's weird. Too many little things don't match up with the story that's supposed to go along with it.

WELL YOU Can read all the conspiracy into it you want, but ill just stick to, someone died, at the hands of another nation, i dont care who it was, but they will be found.

Geisha · 05-21-2004, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DudeMan

WELL YOU Can read all the conspiracy into it you want, but ill just stick to, someone died, at the hands of another nation, i dont care who it was, but they will be found.

If I'm reading this right that's actually a good point. 24 hrs after viewing most of that film I'm still shaking at the ideas it represented; while I watched it I was utterly convinced but nearly any movie does that to me... anyway I think I'm agreeing with at least part of Dudeman's statement when I say that this collection of 1's and 0's doesn't matter to me anymore in the context of the war (nightmares notwithstanding).

I do believe that Nick Berg was beheaded by a group that wants to punish the Americans and scare the Coalition. I don't believe Nick Berg was murdered by the US government in some kind of cover-up. That's about all I'm certain of (and that doesn't mean I'm right, just firm in my belief). The only way that collection of digital information really matters is its affect on other people, because it doesn't tell us anything new if it's 100% true, and it doesn't tell us anything conclusive if it's false.

**DudeMan** · 05-21-2004, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Geisha

If I'm reading this right that's actually a good point. 24 hrs after viewing most of that film I'm still shaking at the ideas it represented; while I watched it I was utterly convinced but nearly any movie does that to me... anyway I think I'm agreeing with at least part of Dudeman's statement when I say that this collection of 1's and 0's doesn't matter to me anymore in the context of the war (nightmares notwithstanding).

I do believe that Nick Berg was beheaded by a group that wants to punish the Americans and scare the Coalition. I don't believe Nick Berg was murdered by the US government in some kind of cover-up. That's about all I'm certain of (and that doesn't mean I'm right, just firm in my belief). The only way that collection of digital information really matters is its affect on other people, because it doesn't tell us anything new if it's 100% true, and it doesn't tell us anything conclusive if it's false.

agreed

can we have the ten characters thing removed it is annoying that i must say something else when all i want to say is agreed, maybe i should make a post about this in the general.

fr1j0l3 · 05-24-2004, 08:54 PM

Well, even the medical experts are seeing the same things we are...

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/FE22Ak03.html

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Because Iraq's radical Islamists speak in a particular manner, and live by a closely proscribed code, apparent contradictions between these ways and the way Berg's captors appeared has generated speculation. Some observers have speculated on the possibility that the individuals weren't native Arabic speakers. Conversely, it is reported that in Saudi Arabia, where Sharia law allows for beheadings in cases of severe crimes, the condemned is heavily drugged with tranquilizers prior to the execution, reportedly leaving them in a state similar to that which Berg appeared in during parts of the video.

hrmm

LOWDRAG · 05-25-2004, 11:49 AM

I Dont Have This Video Anymore... Sorry..

**DudeMan** · 05-25-2004, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LOWDRAG

I Dont Have This Video Anymore... Sorry..

yeah i would imagine it isnt something you keep as a momentum.

LOWDRAG · 05-25-2004, 01:09 PM

Acutally I think it's an Awesome display of how far a human being can and will go to prove a point.

I just dont want to play along with this anymore, I'm moving on waiting for what's next.

LegionPaulL · 05-25-2004, 02:00 PM

I dont know what to think. I am just crazy. I see a guy getting his head cut off, hey, I may be somewhat in a state of "wo." If that ever happend to me, "Wo." I dont know what to think anymore, I have to wait to here more to comment.

LOWDRAG · 05-25-2004, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LegionPaulL

I dont know what to think.

OK... when the popular vote comes in .. let us know how you cast your vote.

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Originally Posted by LegionPaulL

I am just crazy.

Not sure you meant that??? ;-)

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Originally Posted by LegionPaulL

I dont know what to think anymore, I have to wait to here more to comment.

Ok again.

sorry.. thought it was funny to pick apart your post.

**DudeMan** · 05-25-2004, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LOWDRAG

Acutally I think it's an Awesome display of how far a human being can and will go to prove a point.

I just dont want to play along with this anymore, I'm moving on waiting for what's next.

precisely why i was against it a glorification of what they did,

look at what they are willing to do for their cause...

not just a case of sick twisted ****s then no?

05-19-2004, 06:50 AM	#137 (permalink)
Zebra Join Date: May 2003 Age: 36 Posts: 217	Re: Beheading Video I hope they don't behave like your average middle easterner. If the average middle easterner decapitates people for fun, we're wasting our time over there.

05-19-2004, 11:40 AM	#138 (permalink)
DudeMan Join Date: May 2003 Location: london England Age: 22 Posts: 3,258	Re: Beheading Video i am a bit confused about your term average middle easterner. the middle east covers eqypt syria iraq palestine. all seperat countries and all seperate i didentities as a people. there is n o such thing as an avergae middle easterner.

05-19-2004, 09:56 PM	#139 (permalink)
GhostintheShell Join Date: May 2003 Location: Guelph, Ontario Age: 37 Posts: 963	Re: Beheading Video It looks as though they might have caught 4 of the people who were involved. __________________ Certainly there is no hunting like the hunting of man and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never really care for anything else thereafter. Ernest Hemingway, "On the Blue Water," Esquire, April 1936

05-25-2004, 11:49 AM	#145 (permalink)
LOWDRAG Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Boston Posts: 253	Re: Beheading Video I Dont Have This Video Anymore... Sorry..

05-25-2004, 01:09 PM	#147 (permalink)
LOWDRAG Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Boston Posts: 253	Re: Beheading Video Acutally I think it's an Awesome display of how far a human being can and will go to prove a point. I just dont want to play along with this anymore, I'm moving on waiting for what's next.

05-25-2004, 02:00 PM	#148 (permalink)
LegionPaulL Join Date: May 2004 Location: Waco, Texas America Age: 22 Posts: 254	Re: Beheading Video I dont know what to think. I am just crazy. I see a guy getting his head cut off, hey, I may be somewhat in a state of "wo." If that ever happend to me, "Wo." I dont know what to think anymore, I have to wait to here more to comment.

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