LOWDRAG

I think if your British and or American, or God help us a combo of both. You better know what these people are willing and able of doing. (not sure I understood your post but in re-reading it a couple times.. you might be saying the same thing??)

If your a military type you've got to be (for lack of a better term) "impressed" at the commitment these ****'s have to do something like this.

DudeMan

i am not impressed at all and if you are a military type then i sincerely hope that impressed is the wrong word, when it comes down to it killing in an execution style civillians is not on, they dont have the balls to go after a soldier and try that so they pick on an unarmed person.

no admiration here, and i tell you another thing, hand to hand no knifes or guns id like half hour alone with one of them.

id rip their ****ing heads off.

Fait_Maker

I think the better word is "aware". The military has got to be aware of how far they are willing to go. It's like when you pull a prank on someone. Then they want to get you back but go overboard. At that point, you either get them back much worse or just whine because of how far they took it. These terrorists feel they don't have anything to lose. Someone who has nothing to lose is far more dangerous than a man with a lot to lose.

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LOWDRAG

If they do a soldier, then they have 200K walking their street's with payback chips looking to cash in on.
Do a civilian, in an election year, when the press is killing us for being there in the first place, ect... you get the drift.
The freaking mother's of america start crying about why Johnny come lately her ill forgoten son is fighting in some New York Times headline style war.

Also your showing your age with the hand to hand, no knife and guns line, I'm from that school also.
Hell throwing rocks in my day was about as out of freaking control as you got.

But those day's are over. I'm not rolling around on the ground with someone when I could smack the **** out of them with a 2by4.

LOWDRAG

Also I did prefece "Impressed" with , FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM / SHOULD HAVE BEEN WORD.

DudeMan

I GET YOUR FIRST POINT BUT AGREE WITH faits point more... aware is the better word,

and im showing my age, when i was in school we fought in gangs with bottles and knifes and i even saw the occaisional gun although noone had the balls to use it....

dude i am 18 years old, i am just good with my fists and i can handle myself,


oh not to mention i take great pleasure in kicking the living daylights out of someone who deserves it, its satisfying beyond beliefe,...

i dunno maybe im old school bu what ever.

LOWDRAG

I'll agree with that.. I'm sure there were a million different words that could be used to describe. Point was they cut a defenseless man's head off on video for the world to see.
Statement made.

DudeMan

wrong statement though because although i did not ant to see berg's video i would watch the vidoe if a lopng drawn out death for thesse peple with a pepsi and a popcorn.

you never ever do th to a westerner because since history remembers you kill our civillias we ill you and the 15 people standing around you.

jex

Having read some of the posts here there seems to be some confliction as to whether the video is real or not. I happened by chance across this today. It is nothing concrete, more really asking for more facts on the matter. Any video experts here?

http://prisonplanet.tv/articles/may2...watermarks.htm

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DudeMan

well where it made good reading, i have only the information that someone said codak said, there was no statement from codak and a bunch of huys in a forumn discussing it.

it really offers no more credit to any of the conspiracy theroies going around. because its pure speculation at this time.

where is the kodak guy saying yeah thats it here it is....

oh and i would be interested to find out if the kodak team did invent the digital watermarking because they have only been making digital cameras for about 3-4 years and lots of people had them before that. does this mean any camera before that time doesnt have the watermark?

i also looked around on that site and they have lots of topics all about conspiracy theroies, and we know how much i like conspiracy theroies, with hashed evidence and facts misconstrued to meet facts....

nothing about this story compells me to give it a second thought yet, but good find anyway... ill just watch the news for it.

LOWDRAG

Inquiry show's GI executed by Iraqis during war

Walters was captured with Jessica Lynch in ambush

Updated: 11:07 a.m. ET May 28, 2004SALEM, Ore. - A soldier in the same ambush as former POW Jessica Lynch was not killed in action but captured by Iraqi fighters and then executed, officials said.

The family of Sgt. Donald Walters, 33, of Salem — who had pressed officials for an investigation of their son’s death — learned the new information from the Oregon National Guard. Guard officials released the details to the public Thursday, more than a year after the March 23, 2003, ambush.

In March, the Army posthumously awarded Walters the Silver Star for gallantry with marked distinction. He also was awarded the Bronze Star and the Purple Heart. This week, he was also awarded a POW medal.

The Pentagon investigated Walters’ death after his mother, Arlene, filed Freedom of Information requests, believing the Army had not given her son credit for actions first attributed to Lynch, such as fighting until his ammunition had run out.

Walters “was held separately from his fellow soldiers and killed while in custody,” according to a National Guard news release.

“He was executed — shot twice in the back,” Guard spokesman Maj. Arnold Strong said in a telephone interview Thursday. “An Iraqi ambulance driver witnessed six Fedayeen rebels standing outside a building guarding him while he was still alive. That same witness evacuated his dead body to a hospital.”

It was several hours between the time he was seen being led into the building and his body was brought out, the Guard said.

Investigators, Strong said, “have a pool of suspects,” presumed to be members of the Fedayeen paramilitary force who captured Walters. Lynch and others were taken captive by different Iraqi forces. Lynch was rescued from an Iraqi hospital April 1, 2003, while seven others captured in the ambush were freed 12 days later.

DNA matched with blood on wall
Defense investigators confirmed the account by matching Walters’ DNA to blood splatter on the wall where he was executed, Strong said. He died from two gunshot wounds to the back, fired from more than 20 feet away, according to Strong’s account of the investigation findings.

Walters’ fate drew attention because the details of his actions remarkably resemble a story circulated in the media, based on anonymous sources, describing how Lynch had fought until her ammunition ran out.

After her rescue, Lynch, of Palestine, W.Va., said she did not fire a shot. Her injuries resulted from a Humvee crash during the firefight in the Iraqi town of Nasiriyah, just days into the war.

“What upset me was they admitted it wasn’t Jessica Lynch, but they never bothered to find out who that soldier was,” Arlene Walters told reporters late Thursday.

Like Lynch, Donald Walters had blond hair. His family and others have said that early reports depicting a blond soldier bravely fighting off Iraqis may have been mistakenly attributed to Lynch, possibly because of an erroneous translation of Iraqi radio transmissions.

“Whether it was my son or any other one of those soldiers in the 507th, we needed to find out who it was that did this and give that person credit,” Arlene Walters told CBS’ “The Early Show” on Friday. “But it just so happened to be, I’m Donald’s mother, I thought it was him and I could fight for him.”

An Army report released last summer on the ambush of the 507th Army Maintenance Company said that Walters likely died in the fighting that left 10 other soldiers dead. The report said there were no American witnesses to his death.

HairyNevus

Okay sorry I didn't get to reading all twelve pages but I was just looking for that link to video.

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CingularDuality

Lowdrag had a great link, but I guess it's dead now. Perhaps somebody here that has already downloaded it can hook you up? I would, but I'm out of town and on dialup...

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DeRanger

Link Removed. PM user for the link.

Americans executing their own citizens? Wouldn't put it past them for a second, especially with an election around the corner, the aftermath of a failed war still looming and with popularity and public opinion oh so crucial.

tycho

Last I checked the war wasnt over yet, nor has it 'failed'. Dont let your hatred of America and Americans blind you so much DeRanger.