'Proper Armamanet' - Page 3

Leonidas · 02-04-2006, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokingTarpan

I'd be less worried about the army of fully armed and armored terrorists backed by light armored vehicles suddenly showing up at the facility, and more worried about the one terrorist in normal clothes that manages to sneak in a bomb inside his shoe. Frankly, I don't see a reason for any facility inside the US to have such weaponry as a deterrent security system.

Why? Sigh, Americans have gotten into their own comfortable world, where it just not possible that three suburbans full of bad guys would roll up to a top security lab and fight their way inside in an attempt to steal/destroy the contents of the facility or to barricade themselves inside and set off the powder keg.

This kind of stuff happens! If we would just put the military on the borders and in airport/ports this would be a far smaller problem, but we haven't wised up yet.
Better that they be armed and ready to defend than have them overcome by a hard-core group of terrorists/traitors/criminals. What possible harm could come from them having those guns that would not be totally insignificant compared to the threat neutralized?

Why do you think Area-51 has miles and miles of perimeter security? You think that's empty desert? No, thats motion sensors and recon teams watching you from miles away, to intercept you if you get too close for comfort.

It's there for a reason. No harm could come from it that wouldn't be totally insignificant compared to the threat neutralized. I'd blow the burglars brains out rather than take the chance he might knife me.

EDIT: Not that it matters if anyone thinks this is a bad move. The government is perfectly entitled to put those mini-guns there if they think it appropriate, thank god.

Steeler · 02-04-2006, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Leonidas

Why? Sigh, Americans have gotten into their own comfortable world, where it just not possible that three suburbans full of bad guys would roll up to a lab and fight their way inside in an attempt to steal/destroy the contents of the facility or to barricade themselves inside and set off the powder keg.

This kind of stuff happens!

Mostly it happens to Bruce Willis.

**CingularDuality** · 02-04-2006, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Steeler

Mostly it happens to Bruce Willis.

Yippy-ki-yay, m-f-er.

ScratchMonkey · 02-04-2006, 04:21 AM

The minigun is sexy, I agree, but I'd still rather have Jennifer Garner.

**P8riot** · 02-04-2006, 03:16 PM

WOW! Look what I stirred up, Honey!

Well, you just never know what will get stirred up from time to time.

If Livermoore was on a target hitlist for any organization at all, I bet it just went much further down the list - thats all.

**Rincewind** · 02-04-2006, 09:22 PM

I know a few people who work at and have worked at LL. These guns should be near the bottom of the worry-list for the nearby residential neighborhoods. Researchers work with some seriously dangerous materials there.

**Sarcoma** · 02-04-2006, 11:03 PM

LOL....I live in San Francisco and the media out here is FREAKING out over this. I love it.

Sarcoma

gun owner who wants a mini-gun for himself.

ScratchMonkey · 02-05-2006, 03:33 AM

I'm right across the bay (San Pablo) and happy I'm not in SF. Although I do envy you the convenient access to a lot of good restaurants. This area sucks for that.

**CingularDuality** · 02-05-2006, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarcoma

LOL....I live in San Francisco.....
Sarcoma

gun owner

I thought that the city banned all guns?

Steeler · 02-05-2006, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Steeler

Mostly it happens to Bruce Willis.

I was right! In Die Hard with a Vengeance, as the bomb tech is explaining how the silly red water/clear water bomb works, they ask where this stuff comes from, and one of the cops says it was stolen from Livermore Labs the month before. Score!

Bommando · 02-05-2006, 07:50 PM

When I imagine the conflict that would result from a frontal assault on this facility, I can't help but picture the opening scene from Team America - World Police

**TG_Bubba** · 02-05-2006, 09:34 PM

I just noticed this thread. I work in the Nuclear Security field. As a member of the Nuclear Security Force some of the "toys" we have now are awesome, but that mini gun would be sweet. Man I would love to have that on our team at the plant I am at. Mounting that on a hummer would be sweet. Three of those babies is all we would need, no make that four.

Let me add that without getting into to much detail, a system like that is well worth it. We are governed by the NRC with specific guidelines as to how we must defend any type of nuclear plant. The training that we go through is very extensive as to weapons use, tactics and such.

We have a commitment that we must uphold in order to protect our plants from any type of aggression. Our number one priority is plant safety and the protection of the public. If it takes such weapons as the mini gun to uphold these requirements then I for one welcome them.

**CingularDuality** · 02-05-2006, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TG_Bubba

Mounting that on a hummer would be sweet. Three of those babies is all we would need, no make that four.

Except that .mil HMMWVs suck...

You'd be better served (and more comfortable) in a few of THESE.

**TG_Bubba** · 02-05-2006, 10:06 PM

Believe it or not it was talked about.

**CingularDuality** · 02-05-2006, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TG_Bubba

Believe it or not it was talked about.

I believe it.

I saw video of a prototype that was aimed by the passenger via laptop and a camera. It would be like playing BF2, except if you die because of lag, it would be a bit more consequential!

02-04-2006, 04:21 AM	#34 (permalink)
ScratchMonkey Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Pablo, California Posts: 4,225	Re: 'Proper Armamanet' The minigun is sexy, I agree, but I'd still rather have Jennifer Garner. __________________

02-04-2006, 03:16 PM	#35 (permalink)
P8riot Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bradenton, FL Age: 38 Posts: 2,681	Re: 'Proper Armamanet' WOW! Look what I stirred up, Honey! Well, you just never know what will get stirred up from time to time. If Livermoore was on a target hitlist for any organization at all, I bet it just went much further down the list - thats all. __________________ Age of Conan: Tharashk (Taxiarchos), Thaumiel (alt), guild Ars Tactika - Cimmeria

02-04-2006, 09:22 PM	#36 (permalink)
Rincewind Join Date: May 2005 Location: Casting useless spells in Oklahoma. Age: 27 Posts: 2,783	Re: 'Proper Armamanet' I know a few people who work at and have worked at LL. These guns should be near the bottom of the worry-list for the nearby residential neighborhoods. Researchers work with some seriously dangerous materials there. __________________ ~~ Veritas simplex oratio est ~~ No matter how far a wizard goes, he will always come back for his hat. --T. Pratchett <---- You know you're getting old when you rely on your forum meta-data to remind you how old you are. Required Reading for all TG sandboxers

02-04-2006, 11:03 PM	#37 (permalink)
Sarcoma Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Francisco Age: 36 Posts: 541	Re: 'Proper Armamanet' LOL....I live in San Francisco and the media out here is FREAKING out over this. I love it. Sarcoma gun owner who wants a mini-gun for himself. __________________ Sarcoma.

02-05-2006, 03:33 AM	#38 (permalink)
ScratchMonkey Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Pablo, California Posts: 4,225	Re: 'Proper Armamanet' I'm right across the bay (San Pablo) and happy I'm not in SF. Although I do envy you the convenient access to a lot of good restaurants. This area sucks for that. __________________

02-05-2006, 07:50 PM	#41 (permalink)
Bommando Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 30 Posts: 4,294	Re: 'Proper Armamanet' When I imagine the conflict that would result from a frontal assault on this facility, I can't help but picture the opening scene from Team America - World Police

02-05-2006, 09:34 PM	#42 (permalink)
TG_Bubba Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In the cell next to Icky. Age: 54 Posts: 5,932	Re: 'Proper Armamanet' I just noticed this thread. I work in the Nuclear Security field. As a member of the Nuclear Security Force some of the "toys" we have now are awesome, but that mini gun would be sweet. Man I would love to have that on our team at the plant I am at. Mounting that on a hummer would be sweet. Three of those babies is all we would need, no make that four. Let me add that without getting into to much detail, a system like that is well worth it. We are governed by the NRC with specific guidelines as to how we must defend any type of nuclear plant. The training that we go through is very extensive as to weapons use, tactics and such. We have a commitment that we must uphold in order to protect our plants from any type of aggression. Our number one priority is plant safety and the protection of the public. If it takes such weapons as the mini gun to uphold these requirements then I for one welcome them. __________________ Admin Graw 2-- Call of Duty Tactical Game Primer Call of Duty - Official Rules, Announcements & SOPs Have a problem? Need an admin? TG_Mateo: "Forget freedom, democracy, the blues, New York Pizza: our lasting contribution to human society is Bourbon." Sloppy Joe: "Don't play this game like you are on your own, because if you do... it might become a reality." kin3: "I'll try but I have the grandchildren all day today and if I'm not wiped out I'll play." Last edited by TG_Bubba; 02-05-2006 at 09:56 PM.

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