Originally Posted by Ben

OUTRAGED MUSLIMS! OH MY!
We wake up this morning to see video on CNN showing rampaging Muslims around the world <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4676930.stm> . In Europe, the Middle East, the Pacific Rim ... Muslim Mobs spreading mayhem. It seems that these mighty mad Muslims are rioting and firing their ever-present AK-47s into the air because of cartoons. Yup ... this latest epidemic of Muslim outrage comes to us because some newspapers in Norway and Denmark published some cartoons depicting Mohammed.

Admit it, this turban/bomb thing could be the next big fashion hit on the Muslim street!

Muslim outrage huh. OK ... let's do a little historical review. Just some lowlights:

Muslims fly commercial airliners into buildings in New York City. No Muslim outrage.

Muslim officials block the exit where school girls are trying to escape a burning building because their faces were exposed. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims cut off the heads of three teenaged girls on their way to school in Indonesia. A Christian school. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims murder teachers trying to teach Muslim children in Iraq. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims murder over 80 tourists with car bombs outside cafes and hotels in Egypt. No Muslim outrage.

A Muslim attacks a missionary children's school in India. Kills six. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims slaughter hundreds of children and teachers in Beslan, Russia. Muslims shoot children in the back. No Muslim outrage.

Let's go way back. Muslims kidnap and kill athletes at the Munich Summer Olympics. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims fire rocket-propelled grenades into schools full of children in Israel. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims murder more than 50 commuters in attacks on London subways and busses. Over 700 are injured. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims massacre dozens of innocents at a Passover Seder. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims murder innocent vacationers in Bali. No Muslim outrage.

Muslim newspapers publish anti-Semitic cartoons. No Muslim outrage

Muslims are involved, on one side or the other, in almost every one of the 125+ shooting wars around the world. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims beat the charred bodies of Western civilians with their shoes, then hang them from a bridge. No Muslim outrage.

Newspapers in Denmark and Norway publish cartoons depicting Mohammed. Muslims are outraged.

Dead children. Dead tourists. Dead teachers. Dead doctors and nurses. Death, destruction and mayhem around the world at the hands of Muslims .. no Muslim outrage ... but publish a cartoon depicting Mohammed with a bomb in his turban and all hell breaks loose.

Come on, is this really about cartoons? They're rampaging and burning flags. They're looking for Europeans to kidnap. They're threatening innkeepers and generally raising holy Muslim hell not because of any outrage over a cartoon. They're outraged because it is part of the Islamic jihadist culture to be outraged. You don't really need a reason. You just need an excuse. Wandering around, destroying property, murdering children, firing guns into the air and feigning outrage over the slightest perceived insult is to a jihadist what tailgating is to a Steeler's fan.

I know and understand that these bloodthirsty murderers do not represent the majority of the world's Muslims. When, though, do they become outraged? When do they take to the streets to express their outrage at the radicals who are making their religion the object of worldwide hatred and ridicule? Islamic writer Salman Rushdie wrote of these silent Muslims in a New York Times article three years ago.

… "As their ancient, deeply civilized culture of love, art and philosophical reflection is hijacked by paranoiacs, racists, liars, male supremacists, tyrants, fanatics and violence junkies, why are they not screaming?"

Indeed. Why not?

Originally Posted by munchkin

Ben, you're talking out of your hat. So out of 1 billion Muslims, none have been outraged or offended by the events you mentioned above? This sort of argument is why you aren't being taken seriously in this thread.

Originally Posted by Root

Once again, you confuse those who use Islam as an excuse to be violent, with real Muslims who no doubt respect Jews as much as Christians or Bhuddists do. That is to say the level of respect will vary from person to person.

Originally Posted by RandomGuy

Certainly true, but if you look at the distribution of that respect in the religious groups as a whole how do you think Islam will compare?

Originally Posted by CingularDuality

Exactly.

I would like someone to tell me which Muslim country that you'd like to take your wife and kids to on a week-long vacation.

Originally Posted by CingularDuality

Exactly.

I would like someone to tell me which Muslim country that you'd like to take your wife and kids to on a week-long vacation.

Originally Posted by munchkin

Sure thing.

Malaysia, Indonesia, Brunei, Morocco, Turkey, and possibly Egypt and Pakistan.

EDIT: Oh, and the United Arab Emirates too. Dubai looks kickass

Originally Posted by JoshZeitlin

I'm jewish and I've visited the Egyptian Sini and Jordan...

To my knowledge, it is only Palestinian, Syrian, Iranian, Lebanese ( or Terrorist controlled ) areas that you cannot visit WHAT-SO-EVER. The other areas are VERY risky, but its not like your guaranteed to get killed.

Originally Posted by JoshZeitlin

To my knowledge, it is only Palestinian, Syrian, Iranian, Lebanese ( or Terrorist controlled ) areas that you cannot visit WHAT-SO-EVER. The other areas are VERY risky, but its not like your guaranteed to get killed.