DudeMan

heh heh..... yep... agreed 100% put me down for one of those.

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The Queen
"Those who perpetrate these brutal acts against innocent people should know that they will not change our way of life,"
Atrocities such as these simply reinforce our sense of community

TheFeniX
"Guns don't kill people: effeminate men in green tunics do"

leejo

Great stuff.

Who knew Roman Moroni was still around sticking it to the man?

Barracuda_Magoo

Could Ben, Josh, or any other Israeli member translate this cartoon for me? It's pretty obvious what the message is, but I'd like to know what the text says.

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JoshZeitlin

In this context, it means "The way of the Israeli Defense Forces." It is a critique of "the way" the terrorists act in firing from behind women and children, whereas the Israelis step in front of theirs to protect them.

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Josh -
Some men will always be animals, while others ... they will be Men.

aesop rock

So, what? You call someone a violent [insert slut here], and they get pissed and punch your lights out. So then that means the slur was accurate? Or does it mean that you should close your yap if you don't want to get punched?

aesop rock

It is a echo of almost every war or conflict in which some combatants feel their religion is threatened. Truth is, by nature of most religions, it's impossible to believe both YOUR religion and OTHER religions are both legit, and that's terribly unfortunate.

George Carlin breaks down the 10 commandments. http://www.geocities.com/bobmelzer/gc10cx.html

And he comes up with:
1. Thou shalt always be honest and faithful to the provider of thy nookie.
2. Thou shalt try real hard not to kill anyone, unless of course they pray to a different invisible man than you.
3. Thou shalt keep thy religion to thyself.

It's all ya need. And while we're talkin about muslim rights, lets throw this one down.

"They keep talking about drafting a Constitution for Iraq. Why don't we
just give them ours? It was written by a lot of really smart guys,
it's worked for over 200 years and we're not using it anymore."

- George Carlin

Note: Don't get mad at George Carlin for his beliefs, he only feeds on this.

ScratchMonkey

IIRC, Christian wars tend to be factional and an attempt to save the "victim" from his own sin. It's ok to torture someone in this life to save them in the next. You have to fight the opposing factions because they're preventing people from being saved by teaching them the wrong method.

What's the Islamic excuse for jihads? Are they "saving" those they attack, or what are they getting out of it?

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USN_Squid

This should probably go in a new thread, but here's a quick answer with a link to a recent article. There is a ton more you should read on this. Try googling Taqiyya.

Article

"For example, one of the fundamental notions of a secular society is the moral importance of freedom, of individual choice. But in Islam, choice is not allowable: there cannot be free choice about whether to choose or reject any of the fundamental aspects of the religion, because they are all divinely ordained. God has laid down the law, and man must obey.

'Islamic clerics do not believe in a society in which Islam is one religion among others in a society ruled by basically non-religious laws. They believe it must be the dominant religion - and it is their aim to achieve this.

"That is why they do not believe in integration. In 1980, the Islamic Council of Europe laid out their strategy for the future - and the fundamental rule was never dilute your presence. That is to say, do not integrate.

"Rather, concentrate Muslim presence in a particular area until you are a majority in that area, so that the institutions of the local community come to reflect Islamic structures. The education system will be Islamic, the shops will serve only halal food, there will be no advertisements showing naked or semi-naked women, and so on."

That plan, says Dr Sookhdeo, is being followed in Britain. "That is why you are seeing areas which are now almost totally Muslim. The next step will be pushing the Government to recognise sharia law for Muslim communities - which will be backed up by the claim that it is "racist" or "Islamophobic" or "violating the rights of Muslims" to deny them sharia law.

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aesop rock

Well said, Bommando. Bravo. It used to confuse me as to how chinatown could exist. As a child, growing up, the message of segregation being ALL bad (and racist) was in direct conflict with Chinatown's very presence. I still wonder how ethnically themed restaurants can 'get away' with *apparantly* hiring only people of similar ethnicity to work the front house.

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"Who put the fun in dysfunctional? I." - Aesop Rock (http://www.mushrecords.com/release.php?REAID=38)

"Cuz you can choose to say 'Good morning, God' or 'Good God.. morning!" -Blackalicious

It is my firm belief that, until we humans stop using human nature as an excuse for our actions, we will never realize our true nature.

USN_Squid

You're excused. Your "food for thought" comment insinuates I've not considered the issue further than the bounds of TG. I take my food from a large table of sources thank you.

It is well documented that part of the Jihad we are witnessing is the quiet infiltration of our society by way of liberal universities and multi-cultural freindly communities and charities. There are cases of these types of infiltration being exposed and perpetrators have been convicted. I can hear the jaws hitting the floor now and the screams of "Racist" in my direction. You don't have to believe it, but if you don't then I question your limited palate.

It is the well publicized goal of the "nutter few" that happen to number in the hundreds of thousands around the world. There are multiple stories of Islamic communities in free Western and Asian societies trying to impose Sharia law. It almost happened in Canada, almost. This is real whether you wish to digest it or not. This is a fact whether you like it or not.

It is neither racist, nor bigoted to recite the stated goal of a very large and loud segment of our World's population especially when ignoring it has disastrous consequences.

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Steeler

Infiltration? Oh, this should be juicy. Do go on, please.

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USN_Squid

I missed your rebuttal, do you have a question for me?

EDIT:
If you refuse to read the news try googling for "convicted terrorist" that should get you started. In my opinion 9/11 should be enough proof for you that we have been infiltrated, but it goes far, far beyond that.

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leejo

I'm going to guess that Steeler was interested in your supporting evidence that muslims are attempting to infiltrate, as opposed to migrate to, western societies.

Steeler

Sorry, was not a rebuttal. Just wondering what constitutes "infiltration" and how you prosecute someone for it. Do you have some examples?

I hear infiltration and liberal professors and I think of the Nixon era.

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leejo

Funny I hear infiltration and liberal professors and I think "that's where I'd do it."