Fait_Maker

Because "fare" is what you pay at the bus stop :P Funnier said then read..

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DudeMan

i agree with the latter certainly,

although my best insticts tell me to have faith in these people my brain is telling me give up its a waste of time.

DeRanger

Perpetuating terrorism one day at a time, gg yanks.

Wolfie

Until the truth comes out, nobody knows what exactly happened DeRanger.

As of right now, there are 2 completely different stories to the same event, each about the same in strength of reliability. Until we know better, I think it is a bit too early to trash "yanks" for fostering terrorism.

leejo

Thanks for your trust and support.

DudeMan

not everyone has to agree with you leejo,

and its not a case of not being patriotic if they dont.

DeRanger

Too late!?

What about the last 50 frickin' years, ever since the CIA overthrew a democratically elected government in Iran, kicking-off the entire Moslim extremist movement as we know it today. Spare me the "too early to trash yanks" jive. I realize concessions have to be made diplomatically when the U.S. is the most powerful country militarily and has the most voracious consumer appetite on the planet person for person, as a Canadian I'm aware what a high standard of living means to 90% of the world, I'm as guilty of you. Politics is the difference and the fact is it is too late to do damage control and change perceptions, the U.S. will be fighting terrorists as long satiating their own needs are the sole concern (i.e. for a bloody long time). Too early my ass. Are you really trying to argue that the U.S. has not been guilty of terrorism from time to time in resent history?

USN_Squid

I used to struggle with this alot in my younger years too. For every Nicaraqua, Cuba, Iran foul up there are a dozen other instances where we've done the right thing for the right reasons.

Do we make mistakes, you bet. Are we intentionally evil and foster terroism...don't think so.

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DeRanger

Well there's more Moslims out there than you guys can handle who think differently so your arguement is with them and it is not one you will win. Your country will be a target for revenge until your kids start wearing depends, that is the fact and whatever we say won't change that. I know that they are not just a bunch of psychotic camel jockeys wanting to intentionally harm Americans and the U.S.A. I still have aquaintences in the Middle East from years ago, people who would come over and hand you a cold beer and start a friendly conversation if they lived next door to you. As a traveller I learned people over there would do anything for you out of interest, a hospitible nature and without judgement, stark reality to North America. I don't want to get into it because I agree with you absolutely in that the U.S. has done many great things for the world at large also. Unfortunately some of the good you think you do sometimes is clouded perception with a side of spin. I don't know why I even bother anymore...

USN_Squid

If you came by my neighborhood you would be greeted with a smile and a beer. More of North America is like that than you can see apparently.

Of course there is spin from the government, the media, politicians, everyone spins everything so what....give up? We're not perfect Angels so forget the whole thing?

The War on Terrorism is a misnomer. You are correct, terrorism will never be wiped out. But Militant Islam must be. Most major religions have gone through a conversion into the contemporary world and its their turn.

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DeRanger

As an Arab who looks like they just got off the plane from Saudi Arabia, don't patronize me. I was making a reference to being a complete out of towner, JOJ from the West, you didn't pick-up on that... apparently.

Good point, naturally I agree.

leejo

Evidence that the wedding party wasn't what was claimed. Note the spin

USN_Squid

("people who would come over and hand you a cold beer and start a friendly conversation if they lived next door to you"-that's not a stranger that just got off the plane)

Anecdotal, but what the hell....My neighbor is Pakistani and his Mother basically runs am import/export out of their garage. Lots of Strangers running around the neighborhood and I haven't seen any animosity just good barbecues.

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LegionPaulL

Sounds like a good point to me.

Overlag

what he said is both right and wrong, but he is ALLOWED to say it...no point replying with a stupid comment like that.........

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