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Old 05-24-2004, 12:47 AM   #76 (permalink)
 
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Except for all those dead and wounded women and children. I'm sure it's all lies.
But it doesn't show who did it, does it?

For all we know, some terrorist fighters could have come in, killed everyone, threatened the survivors to repeat this story to the news median or they would come back and torture everyone slowly.

A video of a wedding does not prove guilt. The military could produce videos of an AC-130 firing. Would that mean they are innocent?
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Old 05-24-2004, 01:37 AM   #77 (permalink)
 
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But it doesn't show who did it, does it?

For all we know, some terrorist fighters could have come in, killed everyone, threatened the survivors to repeat this story to the news median or they would come back and torture everyone slowly.
Sure, that's believable.
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Old 05-24-2004, 09:39 AM   #78 (permalink)
 
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Re: U.S. fires on Iraqi wedding party

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But it doesn't show who did it, does it?

For all we know, some terrorist fighters could have come in, killed everyone, threatened the survivors to repeat this story to the news median or they would come back and torture everyone slowly.

A video of a wedding does not prove guilt. The military could produce videos of an AC-130 firing. Would that mean they are innocent?

i think given the options i would say that woman and chilldren were killed, however we must not forget that we are dealing with terrorists who hide in mosques with people in it so they dont get shot and even use buildings where civillians will be hurt to attack from. they show blaitant disreguard fro their fellow citizen time after time, who am i to believe

oh and xliipappa6 where did you get info saying women and chi9lldren didnt die?

secondly the video doesnt show the attack, it shows a wedding. period,

unless i am wrong i did read the report i think they said it was before the attack... but i might be wrong.
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Old 05-24-2004, 01:10 PM   #79 (permalink)
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there religion dictates in it that anyone different are not submitting to alah and therefroe should die and face alah./
That's incorrect. It is forbidden for followers of Islam to kill another man because that person may convert to Islam on his deathbed. But it's a bit like that with Christians too. Jesus never said to kill and yet look at how many lives the west has been responsible for. I won't get into a debate about 'an eye for an eye, etc', I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of it all
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Old 05-24-2004, 01:14 PM   #80 (permalink)
 
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its not incorrect at all it doesnt matter how you read any religious book they always have conflicting views.

and yes it probably does say what you say in it aswell,

furthermore dont take my post in comparison to christianity because i was not comapiring the two,

i aint a christian so what would be the point in that explain.

so you can point out alll the hypocracy you want, it aint got nothing to do with what i said because i wasnt compairing the two,
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Old 05-24-2004, 01:25 PM   #81 (permalink)
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LOL i wasn't having a go at you - I was merely pointing out the irony then if you like. If muslims are hell bent on killing when the Koran forbids it and christians are hell bent on killing and the bible forbids that, then how is this mess gonna be cleared up if both sides see killing as gods word (and this is only to extremes of each side - There are plenty of wonderfully kind and loving muslims and christians out there btw).

The truth though is that I don't think either side are hell bent on killing each other but beheading videos and weddings only stoke the fire of hatred.
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Old 05-24-2004, 01:32 PM   #82 (permalink)
 
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LOL i wasn't having a go at you - I was merely pointing out the irony then if you like. If muslims are hell bent on killing when the Koran forbids it and christians are hell bent on killing and the bible forbids that, then how is this mess gonna be cleared up if both sides see killing as gods word (and this is only to extremes of each side - There are plenty of wonderfully kind and loving muslims and christians out there btw).

The truth though is that I don't think either side are hell bent on killing each other but beheading videos and weddings only stoke the fire of hatred.

yeah i dont thing you were having ago at me i was just pointing out i am not comparing the two before i get called a racist or religionist or whatever,

but to your comment i think it comes down to civilisation there, we have a much more civilised society than they do and we dont scream religious war as much as we did say 200 years ago,

they still do and unfortunatly a religious war alwasy gains alot of support to a people who rely on religion more than anything to survive.

as Karl Marx once said.... religion is the opium of the masses,

and the middle east at the momment is on one huge high.
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Old 05-24-2004, 01:50 PM   #83 (permalink)
 
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Sure, that's believable.
Well, until they bring forth evidence that actually supports their claims, their story is just as legit as my theory.
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Old 05-24-2004, 02:00 PM   #84 (permalink)
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I havent read this any posts here but I would just like to add that after we have killed "innocent" people you dont see us dancing in the streets.
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Old 05-24-2004, 02:06 PM   #85 (permalink)
 
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I havent read this any posts here but I would just like to add that after we have killed "innocent" people you dont see us dancing in the streets.

i dont kow after i heard about it i went dancing in the rain singing....


ok bad humour....lol

i see your point though you dont see the american troops going and picking the dead bodies up and showing everyone and then kicking the....(apart from in abu graihb)
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i think given the options i would say that woman and chilldren were killed, however we must not forget that we are dealing with terrorists who hide in mosques with people in it so they dont get shot and even use buildings where civillians will be hurt to attack from. they show blaitant disreguard fro their fellow citizen time after time, who am i to believe

oh and xliipappa6 where did you get info saying women and chi9lldren didnt die?

secondly the video doesnt show the attack, it shows a wedding. period,

unless i am wrong i did read the report i think they said it was before the attack... but i might be wrong.
The same news reports that said before that women and children DID get killed.
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OH sorry i didnt read that or missed it, the part that said they didnt get killed im going back over it then to read that
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Old 05-24-2004, 04:29 PM   #88 (permalink)
 
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And now they have wedding movies that show the guests alive, and then found dead with the same clothing, and a famous wedding singer is killed....

I keep seeing snippets of the commanders saying "this was no wedding", yet everything I'm seeing floating appears to be one.

Even foxwhorenews is running with it...
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i see your point though you dont see the american troops going and picking the dead bodies up and showing everyone and then kicking the....(apart from in abu graihb)
One of the witnesses was playing dead afraid the Soldiers that came to investigate would kill her. She says they kicked her to see if she was alive and were walking around laughing. Not exactly a celebration but not good press however you read it....unprofessional.
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One of the witnesses was playing dead afraid the Soldiers that came to investigate would kill her. She says they kicked her to see if she was alive and were walking around laughing. Not exactly a celebration but not good press however you read it....unprofessional.

Many tipes of laughter, she probably doesnt speak english either, for all she knows they could of been cracking a joke.

Kicking bodies is standard proceedure. Carring them around on sticks is another story.

Are they suppose to be crying? We should pay some crummy actors to dress up like soldiers and go over there and become soldier drama queens, then we may get some good press. Oh wait they wont show good news.
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