Emanon

We have plenty of Natural fuel left, Oil may be on its way out but there is a unknown amount of Methane(sp?) crystals on the ocean floor which are easily collected. Only problem is getting people and companies to convert.

Wolfie

Well, when the site gets its facts straight....

Why did the US experience a oil/gas crisis? Because OPEC used an oil embargo against the US. I don't believe Mr. Hubbert could predict that.....in fact, the website they point to doesn't make that prediction...this website seems to be adding predictions that the original scientists did not make.

Also, this is a website promoting a book......

GhostintheShell

The US geological survey and many other experts in oil and gas expolration agree that we only have from 20-30 years of "cheap" oil available to us. This is based on the statistics of how much "new" oil they are finding and what quantities and at what exploration cost. Why do you think that George W. is so interested in opening up your Arctic National Wildlife refuge and other National Parks to oil and gas exploration? Because you ran out of cheap and easy to get oil in the US decades ago. Some people believe that many Opec countries are vastly overstating the reserves in order to sell more oil right now, due to oil production controls based on available reserves. They believe it may only be 10-20 years of "cheap" oil left.

Whomever said that methane crypstals would be another cheap alternative? Drilling them up from the ocean floor 3000 meters down? Sounds expensivly similar to drilling for oil and how does that solve the environmental problems? More methane, great.

We have an infinite supply of hydrogen, its the most abundant element in the entire galaxy. If you use clean renewable methods like solar, wind and geothermal to seperate it from water, and use the hydrogen as a storage and transportation media, you have a cheap and perfectly clean alternative to oil. There already exists well proven and commercially available fuel cells for the (combustion free) transformation of hydrogen directly to electricity.

It's coming, and if we don't innovate, adapt and lead the way, then other countries that are being much more progressive in this area will, and they'll prosper while the old oil-based civilizations crumble.

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DudeMan

yeah problem is last time i checked they dont work properly, and you go like 20 mph... ooooh rush.....

no thansk screw the enviroment i want to drive my car.. so im going to when the oils out, well then we willl use the next thing in line that give performance....

thats the way it goes...

jex

What horses and bicycles?

Ghost: Don't forget that most of today's products are also made from oil - we don't just use it for fuel.

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LegionPaulL

I concure. I like to go 80 mph down the highway, not on a horse or something else going slow. Hydrogen is weak, oil will live on as long as we keep stealing it. Cars are to good to give up.

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Gryphon

You americans have nothing to bitch about.

Over here a galon of gas i $6.7

AND we have a 200% tax on vehicles.

Kind of sick.

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LegionPaulL

Us Americans? You being prejudice against me and my people just becase we build our own vehichles and are good trade with (via Japan and European nations). We earned what we have and how we get it so cheap (for some).

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DudeMan

and the petrol blockades are back....

fuel protestors are getting ready for what could wreck labours chances totally of a reellection... wit pump prices as of yesterday at £1.12 which is $2 making the per galon american style $7.6

i am goiong out now and filling a bunch of the 5 litre containers you can buy.... luckily for me i drive a scooter.... so i will be good for about a m onth with 3 of those containers filled... so im filling 6.

2 months and this will all be over...

i will be out of a job though... pizza delivery with no petrol doesnt work.

LegionPaulL

True that. You just fill up those suckers then DudeMan, dont let those stupid protestors get in your way. I hope you find another job.

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jex

LOL you'll save about .50p!

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LegionPaulL

A save is a save, just more for you to keep.

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DudeMan

how will i save any money.. the pump price is still 1.12 but i need my go go juice... and i have a small tank... so ill fill them all up and ill be good for like 2 months... and i will tell my boss tomorrow to do the same if he hasnt already. then we can work...

DudeMan

oh and fyi liegion paul... you have cheap peterol because you dont pay the kind of tax that the other countires do.... alot of nations now pay ridiculous tax... i think the UK is one of the highest.

Apophis

Look at the following URL:

http://www.ncseonline.org/NLE/CRSrep...TOKEN=51272933

It has some interesting production levels and useage from 1995.

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