Trooper

nah spanking puts a bad thing the child does with a not so fun thing they would get when they do it. After a while they learn cause and effect, works well. Those that do refuse to spank their kids DO had displine problems and a warped sence of reality if they think time out will ever disapline a child. Thats why i dint become a teacher or a cop, to many whiny bratty kids i would have either thrown a chair at one or shot one....at either job.

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Adrielle

While I'm unsure if I'll ever take my kids over my knee and throttle them, I wouldn't be against a swift one to the rump every once in a while. Sometimes, it takes a little bit of pain to make a child realize that they NEED to not behave in certain ways. i.e. the time-old example of a kid who tries to put their hand too close to the stove ... spank them and let them be in pain for a few minutes, or drive them to the hospital for treatment of second degree burns? Hmm.

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Boot

Spanking is still old school. I'm of the age where most of my friends have kids that are old enough to misbehave, and understand that they are misbehaving. Some parents use spanking, some don't. One set of friends consider spanking a really bad thing and refuse to do it, but they have no problem using hot sauce. I don't see much of a difference between the two myself.

For adults to do this to adults as punishment in the workplace is ludacris. If I ever have a boss who confuses my business relationship with him/her with parenting, I'm working for the wrong person.

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Santa

I have never met a kid that was very disciplined and mature and had been spanked as a child. The most mature and disciplined kids ive met have had parents that actually gave a damn and always instructed their kids from a very early age, as opposed to just using pain as a deterrent from bad behaviour. If anything theyll just rebel more against their parents if theyre spanked, hurt or yelled at. Frankly, i think its an idiotic way of parenting. Instead of threatening a kid, you should actually teach them right from wrong and instill in them why whatever behaviour they are learning is the right way.

Personally, i have only been grounded ONCE my entire life, and i have never been spanked. Anytime i did something wrong as a child, my parents would teach me and instill in me good behaviours and morals and make me understand the why behind the good behaviour. When i was younger, this kind of environment made me want to make my parents proud, rather than act differently than what i thought was right so that i wouldnt get hurt. Now that im older and can think (mostly) for myself, i can use these good morals and behaviours that i have now had instilled in me to make good future decisions and choices. When the kids that have been spanked and not actually taught much grow up, they wont know why they needed to act differently, so they wont act differently and good when they are older. Spanking and threatening just seems like the apathetic, lazy parent's way out. Get the paddle out of your hand and teach your kid something.

CingularDuality

Ha! Juvenile crime rates, coupled with the trend to not spank, would seem to prove you wrong.

Almost daily I see kids in public places, throwing tantrums, with their parents politely asking them to stop, or trying to bribe them with some candy or a toy. I see parents just ignoring their child when their child disobeys them and says "NO!" to them. I see parents that simply don't parent. Now, I'm sure that there are alternatives to spanking that work in some cases, but spanking has been proven to be effective for thousands of years. Since young children are unable to communicate, or even able to reason, until a certain age, a swat on the butt is a great way to teach a child cause and effect. Likewise, a hug and a kiss to instill positive behavior.

BTW, I heard that the lady from the OP got $500,000.

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Trooper

I was raised by parents that did the same thing. but sometimes spankings or a swat in the mouth is just a reminder of what not to do

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Diablo

As far as the spanking of kids goes its Spare the rod spoil the child ! At work as far as spanking goes its kinda out of place cause we are not kids anymore !
Something more apropriate like maybe a groups display project or company garden everyone designs and adds something to like an art pice to be proud of would be more fitting.!

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PanzerHans

Do you have any reference for that one(my GF is a childcare worker and frowns upon this sentence)?
I also believe you could find connections between juvenile crime rates coupled with increased violence on TV or any other increasing trend for that matter. The important thing is that the trends correlate. That is why I would like to see how they figure it does, until that I call that BS.

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ScratchMonkey

Agreed. The real trick is consistency. Cause must lead to consistent effect. Hollering threats and not carrying through is simply not credible. If you're not going to carry out a threat, don't bother making it.

I don't have kids but I have a cat raised from 5 weeks old, and when she did something I didn't want her doing (like chewing on a power cord), I'd pop her on the rump or nose and very sternly say "No". Very few applications of this made the physical manifestation unnecessary. She now knows what "no" means. And the pop wasn't so much to instill pain as to get her attention. She inflicts far more pain on herself in the course of normal play. Signifying disapproval has a lot of power. Just look at how much physical discomfort people are willing to put up with to avoid looking bad in the eyes of their peers.

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ChIck3nL3gz

I too was spanked as a child when I stepped out of line. I can also see the change in my neice and nephew since spanking has become socially unacceptable and I get frustrated at the amount of times I see both of them standing in the corner or being "talked" to and the little to no effect it has on them.

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Adrielle

Honestly, I think there are strategies you could use to avoid 'physical' discipline. But I also think those ways would take a lot more patience, intelligence, and creativity. And while some would argue that you should do whatever it takes, I can admit to myself that I'm simply not smart enough to be able to use those other strategies effectively. There are different methods available to parents. The key is to choose what's right for you, and as Scratch said, to be consistent in the way you reinforce behavior.

(OMG, I almost wrote "behaviour" ... the Canadians are rubbing off on me! HELP!)

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CingularDuality

Take your pick...

And yes, I'm not saying that the decrease in spanking causes the upward swing in juvy crime, I was just pointing out the correlation.

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Just smack her! Smack those u's right out of her sentences!

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