Deploying the National Guard at the Mexican Border - Page 2

**Rincewind** · 05-13-2006, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by leejo

That was my he-was-kidding-wasn't-he suggestion a few weeks ago. In the long run, I think it'll basically happen. Free trade erodes borders. That can be good and bad.

I wish John Candy were still with us. Because, I mean, he'd launch the northern attack on Mexico. Into Canada.

Zephyr · 05-13-2006, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by icky

Why not just take over Mexico?

Sorry, this is The Sandbox.

Well you see its mainly because we did that 150 years ago, and all that happened because of that was that they ended up with relatives already living in our country encouraging them to come on over and enjoy.

-Zephyr

**CingularDuality** · 05-13-2006, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Beatnik

That's kind of what I was getting at, and I'm somewhat glad to hear that at least Canada is also included in the discussion, instead of just focusing on the 'brown people' down South. I've definitely not heard of high profile people being smuggled in across the border, but I've heard next to nothing on the whole issue.

Yeah, huge problem with Chinese and Korean hookers being smuggled into the US through Canada. Lots of Middle Easterners enter through Canada, too. The problem, IMO, is Canada's weak immigration policy. They grant "landed immigrant" status (which is similar to our Permanent Resident status) to just about anyone... Then these Canadian immigrants take advantage of our border that has weak security due to our great relationship with our neighbors to the North.

But you bring up a bigger problem: American's don't realize just how open our borders are. It's obvious why the US Gov't doesn't publicize it, we don't want our enemies to know our weakness (either real or political). Americans need to know that potential terrorists are being smuggled into the US. Americans need to know that the Mexican Army is escorting drugs into the US. Americans need to know just how weak our security really is...

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But given that we're stretched thin in Iraq with Stop Loss and whatnot, is militarizing the border(s) an appropriate use of these relatively scarce resources (i.e. troops)?

I'm not sure that it's the best answer, but it would certainly send a strong message if done right temporarily. Maybe for one year? At the same time, double the size of the US Border Patrol and ICE. Have the USBP dominate the border, while ICE plugs along in the interior (with actual interior patrol)...

**Wyzcrak** · 05-14-2006, 01:59 AM

... that's Spanish for..... The Niño.....

perry · 05-14-2006, 02:56 AM

The US-Canadian border is the longest unprotected border in the world, no?

Eggplant999 · 05-14-2006, 05:44 AM

Why should i trust my cat

**CingularDuality** · 05-14-2006, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by perry

The US-Canadian border is the longest unprotected border in the world, no?

Depends on your definition of unprotected...

**CingularDuality** · 05-15-2006, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CingularDuality

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Originally Posted by Beatnik

But given that we're stretched thin in Iraq with Stop Loss and whatnot, is militarizing the border(s) an appropriate use of these relatively scarce resources (i.e. troops)?

I'm not sure that it's the best answer, but it would certainly send a strong message if done right temporarily. Maybe for one year? At the same time, double the size of the US Border Patrol and ICE. Have the USBP dominate the border, while ICE plugs along in the interior (with actual interior patrol)...

Perhaps this documentary would give everyone an idea of what would be valuable on the border? It's about an hour and is made by the American Border Patrol, a citizen group that is highly critical of the illegal immigration problem. It documents Border Patrol apprehensions using helo, UAV, ATV, IR cameras, motion sensors and traditional ground units. This video has a LOT of USBP radio transmissions, which surprised me. Check it out:
http://www.americanpatrol.com/06-FEA...0_Feature.html

Beatnik · 05-15-2006, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CingularDuality

Depends on your definition of unprotected...

My understanding is that 'unprotected' means without a condom. But I don't see how that relates to this conversation...

Interesting video link. I'll give it a look. Thanks!

**Zebra** · 05-17-2006, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by leejo

That was my he-was-kidding-wasn't-he suggestion a few weeks ago. In the long run, I think it'll basically happen.

Except it'll be the other way around. It's happening right now.

**Trooper** · 05-17-2006, 08:48 PM

Did you guys read today the leader of mexico is calling that move a joke move from bush because his popularity rating is so low he is trying anything. and he said it could alter the election in mexico. He was also mad because this would mess up the economic bridge he has worked so hard to build with the US and Mexico.

So because we are taking a step to stop illegals and protect our boarders, we are to blame for the mexican governments problems

**leejo** · 05-17-2006, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Zebra

Except it'll be the other way around. It's happening right now.

That has occurred to me. I think one could consider this an invasion without straying too far into the Land of Wingnut.

**CingularDuality** · 05-18-2006, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Zebra

Except it'll be the other way around. It's happening right now.

I do believe that you are correct, sir.

And how the heck are you? You really should waste more time here...

Boot · 05-21-2006, 01:49 PM

My only criticism of this is that it isn't done fast enough. It's not about handfuls of illegal immigrants meandering their way in a daily game. There is big business, big corruption involved. I posted a bunch of things in the "Annex Mexico" thread:

http://www.tacticalgamer.com/500673-post17.html

http://www.tacticalgamer.com/500825-post19.html

Every day we don't do this, the Mexican drug lords and their proxies in government laugh and light another cigar.

**CingularDuality** · 06-04-2006, 04:56 AM

http://www.wimp.com/crossing/

And:

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Trooper Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In my wifes house......if she says i can Age: 25 Posts: 8,886	Re: Deploying the National Guard at the Mexican Border Did you guys read today the leader of mexico is calling that move a joke move from bush because his popularity rating is so low he is trying anything. and he said it could alter the election in mexico. He was also mad because this would mess up the economic bridge he has worked so hard to build with the US and Mexico. So because we are taking a step to stop illegals and protect our boarders, we are to blame for the mexican governments problems __________________ that sounds like a good idea trooper. -Vulcan

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Boot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wisconsin, USA Age: 37 Posts: 1,414	Re: Deploying the National Guard at the Mexican Border My only criticism of this is that it isn't done fast enough. It's not about handfuls of illegal immigrants meandering their way in a daily game. There is big business, big corruption involved. I posted a bunch of things in the "Annex Mexico" thread: http://www.tacticalgamer.com/500673-post17.html http://www.tacticalgamer.com/500825-post19.html Every day we don't do this, the Mexican drug lords and their proxies in government laugh and light another cigar. __________________ Boot. In Soviet Russia, TV watches YOU.

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