DudeMan

i agree and have said so twice

i couldnt see a problem with the discussion prior to today obviously others can.

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The Queen
"Those who perpetrate these brutal acts against innocent people should know that they will not change our way of life,"
Atrocities such as these simply reinforce our sense of community

TheFeniX
"Guns don't kill people: effeminate men in green tunics do"

jex

Please list these 'other factors' that would be able to get a nation onto a war footing, forgetting the liberation excuse which they started to use after, and the UN resolutions that were broken as Israel (US/UK?) have done before, and the terrorist connections which are bogus.

And bear in mind the plan by the JCoS's (I think) to take over the middle east and the 'Rebuilding America's Defenses - strategy, Forces and Resources for a New Century' written in 2000 which details taking control of the middle-east (iraq, iran and N. Korea - coincidence that they should fall into the 'axis of evil' don't you think?)

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Zebra

Then I guess your vision has some flaws, because a few pages back Fait_Maker posted that definition, and I don't recall you insisting that he stop spouting and start posting proof.

Once again, I can only direct you to my source for the text, which was Fait_Maker's post. Hopefully he'll acquire the evidence you seek and provide it.

I really have no need to check its validity, since I'm quite confident of the word's meaning.

DudeMan

dont chat rubbish in the hope it will stick the Us administration went to war, fopr the following reasons,

WMD's
to remove sadam from power (which was said before the war not after,)
which include the liberation froman evil and brutal dictatorship

those were two main reasons other mentioned were because iraq supported terror, which was proved through money transferes and in the nations war on terror it was clear anyone supporting terror would cop it.

is it coinsidence, its funny jex your report writtine in 200 ooooh whats your point, iraq, iran and N korea were enemies of the free world long before 2000 so there is no link of coinsidence there mate

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The Queen
"Those who perpetrate these brutal acts against innocent people should know that they will not change our way of life,"
Atrocities such as these simply reinforce our sense of community

TheFeniX
"Guns don't kill people: effeminate men in green tunics do"

DudeMan

really, well the fact remains you used it. therefore you make yourself look an arse if it is not true. so it is in your best interest to check, either way i dont care, i wanted to know your proof from the dicrtionary as the oxford dictionary i am looking at does not say this at all.

therefore i have checked at my end and you just believe fait posted it truthfully without a word of a doubt, well then that is your problem, it means that anything you post i will not even copntemplate as being truthful because you may have heard it from some other guy not actually aquired the knowlege your self.

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The Queen
"Those who perpetrate these brutal acts against innocent people should know that they will not change our way of life,"
Atrocities such as these simply reinforce our sense of community

TheFeniX
"Guns don't kill people: effeminate men in green tunics do"

jex

So why has the US allied with dictatorships since then as rumsfeld did recently. Sorry but that's is plain rubbish that they wanted to remove saddam for liberation. He went sour and they needed a new placeman.

If it's liberation then why ally with other dictators? They're either hypocrites or liars then. Certainly not honourable.

And it's not up to other nations to decide who leads a country.

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leejo

Are you saying that the Americans are hypocrites or liars and without honor? Did you really just say that?

With all due respect Jex you can stick that statement where the sun don't shine. Shall we dig up the long honorable British tradition of subjugating colonies and stealing their wealth?

Should the US bomb every country that doesn't meet your high moral standards or should we leave all dictators to do as they please? Make up your mind.

Ratchet down the rhetoric, please. I don't know who pissed in everyone's wheaties this morning but you all need a nap, IMHO.

DudeMan

oh god you are clutching at straws now,

dictators and deomcracies sghare ideological differences, the fact remains that sadam was nmot just a dictator and thats why we had to go for him, he was a brutal dictator, halabja is one proof of that. estimated into the thousands the amount of people he has had tiortured.

at his sons house they owned lions, and often there were human bones found in the cage. sorry jex but if Bush was doing this id oppose, if he was half no 1/20 as bad id oppose,

and other dictators,m ok im sure you are talking about other nations in the area, well ok true we have teamed with them and not one of them opposed the fall of sadam, and not one of them is half as bad as sadam, yes they have some opressive ideological policies like women.

but they are, as far as i know and im sure our intelligence knows more, not as bad as sadam.

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The Queen
"Those who perpetrate these brutal acts against innocent people should know that they will not change our way of life,"
Atrocities such as these simply reinforce our sense of community

TheFeniX
"Guns don't kill people: effeminate men in green tunics do"

DudeMan

where i am insulted by your attitude to the British, thank you, you can keep your heads now please.

i dont think jex was trying to say that in that respect.

i do on the other hand agree with your last two statements, it seems wjatever way you try to put your opinion across a certain degree of rhetoric and contradiction is always preasent in the reply

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The Queen
"Those who perpetrate these brutal acts against innocent people should know that they will not change our way of life,"
Atrocities such as these simply reinforce our sense of community

TheFeniX
"Guns don't kill people: effeminate men in green tunics do"

Zebra

I think the people who don't know what a documentary is but feel the definition is absolutely essential to a discussion about the merits of Moore's film look like arses themselves. I usually keep opinions like that to myself though.


Who'd have guessed that DudeMan owns a dictionary?

Are you calling him a liar? I don't think he was lying. Maybe if you give more than, I don't know, FIVE MINUTES to respond he'll tell you exactly where that definition comes from.

Good, that will save me the trouble of decyphering and responding to your posts.

DudeMan

well you trip yourself up there, because you clalim i dont know what the deffinition is then yoiu quote me saying i have read oxford English dictionaries deffinition.

hmmm duh more skooling for you then cleetus

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The Queen
"Those who perpetrate these brutal acts against innocent people should know that they will not change our way of life,"
Atrocities such as these simply reinforce our sense of community

TheFeniX
"Guns don't kill people: effeminate men in green tunics do"

jex

No that was not my point at all. I'm talking about the bush administration, this is about the people - you and me who are being manipulated on lies and propoganda. Americans are great people, you guys have shown how nice and friendly you all are. If I thought you were all dishounarable and hypocrites I wouldn't be here in the first place. I care about our freedoms and people deeply enough to risk pissing a few people off in the hope that you'll view things from a different light.

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Jex

Zebra

Did I claim that? Are you sure that's what I said? Enough of your spouting, prove it!

Well, even if I accepted your false claim about my claim, this clearly wouldn't be a trip up. Why would you be looking up the definition of a word for which you know the definition?

No offense, but nobody with your spelling and grammar should be calling ANYbody cleetus.

jex

Don't cop out - answer the question.

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DudeMan

yes the question was answered, dont like the answer thats your only beef pal

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The Queen
"Those who perpetrate these brutal acts against innocent people should know that they will not change our way of life,"
Atrocities such as these simply reinforce our sense of community

TheFeniX
"Guns don't kill people: effeminate men in green tunics do"