CingularDuality

Moore now supports the illegal downloading of his film: http://www.sundayherald.com/43167

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luna

100,000 actually.

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leejo

I'm waiting for Donald Rumsfeld and Michael Moore to get busted at their secret gay hide-away.

Fait_Maker

I'm really not sure what this has to do with Moore. Donny Darko?

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luna

That would be FAB-ulous!

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leejo

Here's a little about why people don't care for Michael Moore.

From http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/...lindhate.shtml

Democrats lead hate campaign

By MICHAEL REAGAN


America is witnessing one of the most despicable political campaigns in our long history - a presidential race filled with lies, distortions and outright hatred - and the offender is not the mythical Republican attack machine the Democrats keep talking about. It's the national Democrat party itself.

If anybody doubts the truth of this I invite them to look at one Michael Moore - slime master extraordinary, a practiced prevaricator, hater of America and radical socialist who has produced what nobody can deny is nothing less that a Democrat campaign commercial masquerading as a documentary.

Moore, however, is simply a symbol for an angry party gone mad. Utterly convinced of the fiction that President Bush stole the 2000 election from Al Gore, who by divine right as a Democrat was entitled to occupy the White House which his party regards as their private property, the Democrats are in a state of uncontrolled rage. The symbol of the Democrat party is no longer a donkey, it's a crazed jackal.





Consider the thrust of the Democrats' campaign rhetoric - that when it comes to the president, to his administration, and to Iraq there is no such thing as good news. To them, the only good news is bad news for America. They want us to fail in Iraq so they can blame the president. They want the economy to go into the tank so they can blame the president.

Twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week, they bash the president no matter what he does. They don't, of course, tell you how they'd do things differently. They only tell you that everything President Bush does is wrong and then assure us that they could do it better. They demand that the president pay more attention to the U.N., for example, and when he does work with the U.N. they give him no credit.

They demand that the president turn Iraq over to Iraqis, and when he does they growl and mutter because he didn't do it the way they say they would have done it - but they won't tell us how they would have done it.

They are giddy over Michael Moore's hate film. Yet they have the nerve to claim that the discourse in politics is getting meaner and meaner and they point their fingers at the Republicans as the culprits. It's not the Republicans, however, who are supporting films such as Moore's incredibly deceptive "Fahrenheit 9/11," filled with false charges and cleverly distorted images such as showing President Bush interrupted by reporters during a golf game allegedly attacking terrorism when he was really talking about the Palestinian bombings.

But the Democrats so hate George W. Bush that they are willing to believe anything negative about him, even to the extent of supporting Moore in his exercise of slander and deceit when they should be condemning it and disassociating themselves from the film as decent people would do when confronted with its deceptions.

The fact is, it has never been about truth with the Democrats - it's always been about lies because they still believe the Bush-stole-the-election canard, and as a result they are willing to believe anything about the president even if it goes beyond the realm of reason, as Moore's film does.

Face it, Michael Moore hates America. He goes abroad and tells the people in Europe that we are the dumbest people on earth. "We Americans suffer from an enforced ignorance," he told the British press. "We don't know about anything that's happening outside our country. Our stupidity is embarrassing."

He explained 9/11 by blaming the United States: "We, the United States of America, are culpable in committing so many acts of terror and bloodshed that we had better get a clue about the culture of violence in which we have been active participants."

He insisted that the terrorists currently killing our soldiers in Iraq can be compared to our Revolutionary War heroes who fought off British oppression: "The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not 'insurgents' or 'terrorists or 'The Enemy.' They are the Revolution, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow - and they will win."

This goes beyond hate crime - it is nothing less than treason. And the Democrats, by aiding and abetting and praising this traitorous person, share his guilt.

That's how far their hatred has taken them.

• Mike Reagan, the eldest son of the late President Ronald Reagan, is heard on more than 200 talk radio stations nationally as part of the Radio America Network.

DudeMan

yes i am surprised this topic is still an issue, i think it wwas an irational statement and is probably regretted.

i agree with you fait, not that my knowlege of bush haters lovers is intense but purely because this argmunet is baseless in this forumn, i am sorry ender and if you speak to many people that do this, well OK then those people need to educate themselves a little better. but i have not seen one person personified by your remark and no base for the argumnet.

i cannot be labled a bush loverr hater, because i could give a rats ass about the state of your economy or security, its griity but why would i care? so i only state my objections to lies i have witnessed. i see michael more exploiting a national tradgedy for the sake of a political message, and then creating facts to manufacture a conclusion he desires.

dont get me wrong its a good idea, but its still wrong.

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"Those who perpetrate these brutal acts against innocent people should know that they will not change our way of life,"
Atrocities such as these simply reinforce our sense of community

TheFeniX
"Guns don't kill people: effeminate men in green tunics do"

DudeMan

i figured thats what happened as i saw your post in gebneral about the film

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The Queen
"Those who perpetrate these brutal acts against innocent people should know that they will not change our way of life,"
Atrocities such as these simply reinforce our sense of community

TheFeniX
"Guns don't kill people: effeminate men in green tunics do"

jex

Jeez one weekend and 5 new pages to go through lol.

Can we have a show of hands as too who has actually seen this film. If you haven't - why bother discussing it?

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Jex

DudeMan

can we stop trying to halt a discussion that is doing anybody no real harm

thank you

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The Queen
"Those who perpetrate these brutal acts against innocent people should know that they will not change our way of life,"
Atrocities such as these simply reinforce our sense of community

TheFeniX
"Guns don't kill people: effeminate men in green tunics do"

leejo

Because it's a democratic campaign ad masquerading as a film masquerading as a documentary. If you don't think politics are involved here I'll try to draw you a picture or perhaps an interpretive dance.

luna

I'll take a picture, Leejo!

*anxiously awaits*

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Resurgent's New Motivational Motto:
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Fait_Maker

Can I have a show of hands as to who has actually seen Iraq or Israel? If you haven't - why bother discussing it?

Because it affects the US whether you see it or not.

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jex

LOL my point is if you haven't seen the film then how do you know what's in it to comment on? Like judging a book by its cover. I haven't seen Israel but I see a lot on the news so I can at least get some view of what is going on. I hope this discussion continues about the points of the film moore brings up.

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Jex

Rampage

Well if you'd read more of the discussion, you'd see we've been over whether or not we have a right to discuss something.