The price of freedom? - Page 7

**leejo** · 07-15-2004, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DudeMan

my objections that gay couples and chilldren are unatural.ill stand by that

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Originally Posted by leejo

For what other things is "natural" your standard?

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Originally Posted by DudeMan

what???????????

CHICKEN BUTT!!!

wickerman · 07-15-2004, 03:09 PM

Ok, this thread has gone down the toilet. Mods?

Fait_Maker · 07-15-2004, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DudeMan

yes fait so you can go back to trying to change everyones opinion now, then calling them ignorant if they dont agree.

we are talkiing about adoptions i had made it clear that i didnt agree with gay sex but didnt say anything against them they can do wha they want,

my objections that gay couples and chilldren are unatural.ill stand by that

Your quote doesn't say anything about my accusing you of attacking homosexuals, so I'll let your apology stand. I never called you ignorant either. I said your notion was silly. There is a difference. Is trying to change an someone's opinion a bad thing? Am I not entitled to the share the same right to an opinion you toss at everyone else?

Could you please break out your rulebook for me so I know what I am and am not allowed to do? After you do that, could you also follow those same rules? You've never told anyone else their idea was stupid, silly, bullocks or anything else? Haven't you? Right. So why can you tell someone their idea is whatever, but when I do the same, I'm ATTACKING YOU? Can we just have the same standards?

**TheFeniX** · 07-15-2004, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by wickerman

Ok, this thread has gone down the toilet. Mods?

How so? This discussion speaks towards the very motives behind America pushing our values on other cultures.

If our president speaks of freedom and liberating opressed people at the same time that he tries to push through an ammendment that would limit the rights of his very own citizens: he sets a bad double standard.

Our presdient would also be stating that marriage is now legally set to the terms of the religous definition for it.

wickerman · 07-15-2004, 03:47 PM

It appears to have degenerated into a grade-school playground argument.

"I think things are this way so they must be right"
"no jooo!"
"I'm not listening. Na na na na na na na"
"Did you read what I said?"
[incoherent babbling]

I read the first thread in the topic - things went downhill fast from there.

But actually I guess it does mimick the arguments being used against gay unions. Perhaps it is representative after all.

IceCold · 07-15-2004, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFeniX

How about rather than growing up with two gay parents, you grow up in a foster home with 100 other kids spending your life like a dog in a kennel hoping some nice people pick you up and give you a good home, which the administrators hate because you being there means they get more money.

You can have it, I'd take the two gay guys anyday. Better to grow up in that kind of home rather than no home at all.

This is why gay marriage/adoption can not be wrong, IMO.

I can't understand how someone can be "pro-life" on abortion issues and then against gay adoption. Xians baffle me.

**DudeMan** · 07-16-2004, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by leejo

CHICKEN BUTT!!!

leave the insults at home leejo,

i didnt understand still dont. read yuour own post because it isnt coherent to me.

still its easier to insult isnt it.

and i guess as long as you are not dudeman you are allowed.

**DudeMan** · 07-16-2004, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Fait_Maker

Your quote doesn't say anything about my accusing you of attacking homosexuals, so I'll let your apology stand. I never called you ignorant either. I said your notion was silly. There is a difference. Is trying to change an someone's opinion a bad thing? Am I not entitled to the share the same right to an opinion you toss at everyone else?

Could you please break out your rulebook for me so I know what I am and am not allowed to do? After you do that, could you also follow those same rules? You've never told anyone else their idea was stupid, silly, bullocks or anything else? Haven't you? Right. So why can you tell someone their idea is whatever, but when I do the same, I'm ATTACKING YOU? Can we just have the same standards?

no fait you bring it on your self, you think you are better than everyone here, news for you, you are not.

your comment infact does say this, like it or not, oh you say it doesnt ooh i must be wrong. i didnt apologise to you niether and why would i

you need to make yourself feel better posting others apologies. well thats really sad man. and guess what you can do it again if you like because if thats what makes you tick then go ahead.

i know i didnt apologise for **** and so does the rest of the forum, so you can keep clutching at straws.

you have a nerve telling me you think my comment is silly saying how you are allowed to change opinions.. because i covered that, and no i dont agree get that through your head, i do not agree. "period."

thats why i take nothing you say on board, and again like it or not you calle me iggnorant, so go back to your little book of insults and find another it seems it doesnt matter since you are not Me.

**DudeMan** · 07-16-2004, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by wickerman

It appears to have degenerated into a grade-school playground argument.

"I think things are this way so they must be right"
"no jooo!"
"I'm not listening. Na na na na na na na"
"Did you read what I said?"
[incoherent babbling]

I read the first thread in the topic - things went downhill fast from there.

But actually I guess it does mimick the arguments being used against gay unions. Perhaps it is representative after all.

agreed,

some people enjoy attacks much more though, why spoil their fun.

**CingularDuality** · 07-16-2004, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by leejo

CHICKEN BUTT!!!

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Originally Posted by DudeMan

leave the insults at home leejo,

i didnt understand still dont. read yuour own post because it isnt coherent to me.

still its easier to insult isnt it.

and i guess as long as you are not dudeman you are allowed.

LOL, I think this is an American thing, Dudeman. It wasn't an insult. It's a silly schoolyard joke of sorts. You ask someone, "You know what?" and then when they say, "What?", you say "Chicken Butt!". I don't know why exactly there is humor in that little interaction, but when I read leejo's post I literally laughed out loud!

Quit taking things so personally, anyway, Dudeman! Nobody here is "out to get you"...

**DudeMan** · 07-16-2004, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CingularDuality

LOL, I think this is an American thing, Dudeman. It wasn't an insult. It's a silly schoolyard joke of sorts. You ask someone, "You know what?" and then when they say, "What?", you say "Chicken Butt!". I don't know why exactly there is humor in that little interaction, but when I read leejo's post I literally laughed out loud!

Quit taking things so personally, anyway, Dudeman! Nobody here is "out to get you"...

well glad it amused someone then.

jex · 07-16-2004, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DudeMan

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wait your kiddint right, you made comments about loosing your job with respects to loosing your life. dont go crying because people commented.

and if you think i attacked you , ok then take it as an insult, nothing i can do about that. but there wasnt one part involved, so dont victimize.

to e honest fenix you have a misguided view of society if you can stand up and say that there would be no repercussions. sorry dont care about whether its fair or right, i am thinking of the chilldren involved and i will not accept your wacky liberal comments in the idealistic world where everyone has the same oppotunities.

i am all about equality, but lets face the facts you dont have it, and niether my country or yours have never had it.

I'm not the one getting all worked up and upset. Perhaps you should read your own posts.

**DudeMan** · 07-16-2004, 01:10 PM

yeah because thats whats happening, well i guess some poeple think they have more of an inpact than they actually do, over inflated sense of self importance maybe i dont know, i am pointint out hypocricy, and i am only half pulling my words at the moment thats all. nothing more.

07-15-2004, 03:09 PM	#92 (permalink)
wickerman Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 230	Re: The price of freedom? Ok, this thread has gone down the toilet. Mods?

07-15-2004, 03:47 PM	#95 (permalink)
wickerman Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 230	Re: The price of freedom? It appears to have degenerated into a grade-school playground argument. "I think things are this way so they must be right" "no jooo!" "I'm not listening. Na na na na na na na" "Did you read what I said?" [incoherent babbling] I read the first thread in the topic - things went downhill fast from there. But actually I guess it does mimick the arguments being used against gay unions. Perhaps it is representative after all.

07-16-2004, 01:10 PM	#103 (permalink)
DudeMan Join Date: May 2003 Location: london England Age: 22 Posts: 3,258	Re: The price of freedom? yeah because thats whats happening, well i guess some poeple think they have more of an inpact than they actually do, over inflated sense of self importance maybe i dont know, i am pointint out hypocricy, and i am only half pulling my words at the moment thats all. nothing more. __________________ The Queen "Those who perpetrate these brutal acts against innocent people should know that they will not change our way of life," *Atrocities such as these simply reinforce our sense of community* TheFeniX "Guns don't kill people: effeminate men in green tunics do"

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