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Old 08-08-2006, 01:32 AM   #46 (permalink)
 
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Double Yikes! Newsweek, Time, US News and World Report, Fox News, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, AP, Clear Channel, New York Times, Reuters, the Atlanta Journal Constitution, USA Today, the LA Times and all our local television affiliates and any other mainstream new organzation are all dinosaurs? Get me Rupert Murdoch at once! Not only is his company a dinosaur but he's a pro-Hezbollah apologist!

Let's make a sweeping indictment of the "mainstream" stream as a pro-Hezbollah mouthpiece because one or two photographers doctored some photographs and were quickly fired. OK, the photographers are biased - does a rational person believe that Rueters has a pro-Hezbollah agenda?

Look at the web site - half the page is Investing and Business sections.

http://today.reuters.com/news/home.aspx?refresh=true

The markets want Hezbollah to win! Wall Street loves radical Islam! Let's hire a pro-Hezbollah anti-Israel photographer our advertisers will love it!

It's ridiculous.
Yes, all those companies reflect the old media and are bleeding viewers and readers. I didn't make a blanket statement about all of the media being pro-hezbollah, but did make the blanket comment that every quote you posted was 3 years old. I respect the fact that you dug for 3 years before findng a pocket of good news about the Iraq war. Doesn't have anything to do with how Cable News is covering the Israeli war.

It is a direct reflection of Rueters what they post and if their reporters are biased, it shows up in their news. It is no surprise that any contributors that are hired out of Beirut are going to be pro-hezbollah. What is a surprise is that Reuters specifically is not trying to find balance in what they allow to be posted under the name Rueters.

The question about whether or not Rueters has a pro-hezbollah agenda? It's clear that some of their employees who contribute to the organization do and that is reflected in their reporting. It's still fair to ask what Biases Rueters hires for and furthermore what they will do in the future to prevent truth tampering.

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Old 08-08-2006, 08:02 AM   #47 (permalink)
 
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Jebus now they're not even trying at all:

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Old 08-08-2006, 11:55 AM   #48 (permalink)
 
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Yes, all those companies reflect the old media and are bleeding viewers and readers. I didn't make a blanket statement about all of the media being pro-hezbollah, but did make the blanket comment that every quote you posted was 3 years old. I respect the fact that you dug for 3 years before findng a pocket of good news about the Iraq war. Doesn't have anything to do with how Cable News is covering the Israeli war.

It is a direct reflection of Rueters what they post and if their reporters are biased, it shows up in their news. It is no surprise that any contributors that are hired out of Beirut are going to be pro-hezbollah. What is a surprise is that Reuters specifically is not trying to find balance in what they allow to be posted under the name Rueters.

The question about whether or not Rueters has a pro-hezbollah agenda? It's clear that some of their employees who contribute to the organization do and that is reflected in their reporting. It's still fair to ask what Biases Rueters hires for and furthermore what they will do in the future to prevent truth tampering.

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I would agree with you that those companies are losing market share but to call them dinosaurs is simply inaccurate. These are highly successful large corporations with deep pockets and it's a bit naive to think that they will become irrelevant as a news source for most Americans. Ok, Americans are watching less of the national news at 5pm on CBS, NBC, ABC, etc. but are they really getting information that is not "mainstream"? Large media conglomerates are where most Americans still get there news information be it television, radio, print or the internet.

I'm still not understanding how one photographer of Rueters with two doctored photograghs indicts an entire news organzation as being bias towards Israel. I think to establish bias as fact there needs to be a reoccuring and documented evidence. One instance does not establish the link. Ok, we have two recent photographs and what else?

Can anyone provide me with Editorials, newpaper reporting - both present and past, quotes from editiors or staff, placement of articles, finiancial links, and advertisments that back up the assertion that Rueters is bias in it's coverage of Israel?

Please post what you have found.

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Old 08-08-2006, 12:15 PM   #49 (permalink)


 
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I don't know that anyone is accusing all of Reuters of being biased to the point of acting in the way this photographer has (digitally altering photos for sensationalism and staging photo shoots in the field). The point is that Reuters didn't have safeguards to keep this from happening. I'm not sure if a wire organization has the equivelent of an editor, but they need one. Or a better one. I just find it hard to believe that we take Reuters seriously if they don't have an expert (or group of experts) examining photo submissions for quality.
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The sad part is, many of the "mainstream" newscasts are, in most cases, honestly trying to provide both sides. But many simply don't want to hear the side they disagree with (Hezbollah if you're Conservative, Isreal if you're Liberal, typically) so they tune in to media that does not challenge their thinking about the subject at all: Rush Limbaugh and The Daily Show are two prime examples. It really feeds this whole black and white thinking mentality
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OMG this analysis will make your eyes roll into the back of your head. Behold the Magic Lebanese Car and Bridge!
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Please post what you have found.
Try a google search for Al Reuters. Bring a cup of coffee.
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Old 08-08-2006, 02:58 PM   #53 (permalink)
 
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Here's an interesting story: Israelis phone targeted buildings before air strikes. Coming soon to a front page near you!
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Try a google search for Al Reuters. Bring a cup of coffee.
Why should I have to search for burden of proof for the claim of Reuters alleged Israel bias? Unless I'm reading these posts incorrectly, I'm not the one making the claim that Reuters has bias press coverage of Israel.

Saying, go search Google, is not an answer. I'm interested in the evidence you have found.
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How many links would you like? 5, 10 or maybe 20 would then prove to you that Reuters is biased? I have learned from experience the individual links will be picked apart and the larger picture missed. I can only assume the reason you don't think Reuters is biased, and don't have links of your own, is because you don't read anything that doesn't fit your ideology and no amount of links to particular examples will change your mind.

That's just my opinion and I may be completely wrong, but if you were truly interested in learning something new you wouldn't be asking me to "prove" something, but would go search and learn something on your own.
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How many links would you like? 5, 10 or maybe 20 would then prove to you that Reuters is biased? I have learned from experience the individual links will be picked apart and the larger picture missed. I can only assume the reason you don't think Reuters is biased, and don't have links of your own, is because you don't read anything that doesn't fit your ideology and no amount of links to particular examples will change your mind.

That's just my opinion and I may be completely wrong, but if you were truly interested in learning something new you wouldn't be asking me to "prove" something, but would go search and learn something on your own.
Yes, providing mulitiple articles, editiorals from Reuters which shows bias is the whole point! Back up your position with evidence. If you feel strongly and confident that you are right than you certainly can back it up with facts which I will happily read.

Many threads in the Sandbox are debates where one "proves" the topic by presenting evidence rather than falsely assuming that other debaters are not as well read or dismissing an opponent by telling him to go look it up himself!
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OMG this analysis will make your eyes roll into the back of your head. Behold the Magic Lebanese Car and Bridge!
Nothing like reading the analyses of people who know next to nothing about photography, war reporting, modern electronic journalism, Lebanon, or the location being discussed as they search desperately for fodder for their paranoid fantasies. At least they all seem to agree that there was a bridge and it was blown up.
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OMG this analysis will make your eyes roll into the back of your head. Behold the Magic Lebanese Car and Bridge!
Hey gang. Upon further review with the wife, we're convinced the first 4 images are actually from the same location, which is a pretty cool lesson in how much different lenses affect the images we see. Of course this draws more attention to the staged nature of the photos (see the timestamp info) and doesn't change the fact that the second bridge is...a second bridge.
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Nice video summary: http://www.aish.com/movies/PhotoFraud.asp
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