leejo

What a tangled web.

First I woke up this morning and saw this article:

Veteran retracts criticism of Kerry

And thought, "ruh-roh".

Then later this morning this pops up:

"Captain George Elliott describes an article appearing in today’s edition of the BOSTON GLOBE by Mike Kranish as extremely inaccurate and highly misstating his actual views. He reaffirms his statement in the current advertisement paid for by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, Captain Elliott reaffirms his affidavit in support of that advertisement, and he reaffirms his request that the ad be played.

“Additional documentation will follow.

"The article by Mr. Kranish is particularly surprising given page 102 of Mr. Kranish’s own book quoting John Kerry as acknowledging that he killed a single, wounded, fleeing Viet Cong soldier whom he was afraid would turn around.

"Swift Boat Veterans for Truth has more than 250 supporters who are revealing first hand, eyewitness accounts of numerous incidents concerning John Kerry’s military service record. The organization will continue to discuss much of what John Kerry has reported as fact concerning his four-month tour of duty in Vietnam."

And now this story is running on Drudge:

BOSTON GLOBE 'REPORTER' PAID TO WRITE OFFICIAL CAMPAIGN BOOK FOREWORD -- WHILE COVERING KERRY

BOSTON GLOBE reporter Mike Kranish made waves on Friday by reporting a key figure in the anti-Kerry ad campaign, Kerry's former commanding officer, "backed off one of the key contentions."

But Captain George Elliott claims the Kranish article is "extremely inaccurate" and highly misstated his actual views.

Oddly, journalist Kranish has been commissioned to write the foreword of the official Kerry-Edwards campaign book -- just as he is covering the campaign in an official capacity as a journalist for the BOSTON GLOBE!

Developing...

Seems they picked the wrong group of vets to try to push around or discredit. Seems the worst anyone can dig up on these retired admirals, captains, etc., is that some republicans have financed their efforts. I supposed they could have solicited PETA or George Soros for money but they made their decision.

TheFeniX

Red Herring: don't pass blame off on someone else.
There's no point in arguing that the Congress is corrupt and full of back-door dealings: it's already a given. The President is very active the law making proccess. He applies pressure on Congressmen to vote his way, and being good-old #1: he has a decent amount of leverage. They don't teach you that in Government.

Considering a republican congress, Bush could very well succeed. I just hope the Judicial Branch would do something about it. So, in effect: I'm not a big fan of Bush or the current Congress.

Yay, for "Separate but Equal." Oh wait.....And I'm entitled to dislike him for his opinions.

Probably because you agree with him, so you don't care either way.

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TheFeniX

I love how people try to pigeon-hole other's politcal views. If he's not a Republican, he must be a filthy liberal. If he's not a Democrat, he must be a fat-cat conservative.

Clinton can rot for his transgressions for all I care.

He's basing his political actions on his religious beliefs. If that helps them to become laws: then he actually is leading me to his church.

As for the whole gun to head analogy: I believe Bush would force me to worship his God if he had the power.

Meh, screw them both.

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leejo

Did you know Kerry was in Vietnam, TheFenix?

Wolfie

JFK couldn't get Congress to pass the laws he wanted them to. Nixon had troubles with Congress getting them to pass laws he was for. Clinton had troubles getting Congress to pass laws he was for. Shall I go on?

The reason people blame the President is because of ignorance. The President doesn't have to do anything yet he will take the credit for a good economy, the blame for a bad economy. If Congress passes a law that people feel is unjust, then they blame the President for Congress's action.

Wolfie

I believe that marriage is a religious event between a man and a woman. However, I am all for civil unions for gay couples.

And no, I do not agree with his stance on stem cell research but instead of bitching about it in the forums about how Bush is pushing his beliefs on others, I have actually contacted my Representative and informed him of my views on the subject.

Personally, I am a Libertarian, not a Republican. But so far, Bush has come off as a better man to lead this nation than Kerry.

luna

Wait, Fenix- it's not a Red Herring when we are discussing how our Government works. Our government is a democratic republic. We vote for our representatives, who in turn vote in congress and the senate. The president of the US can say he wants everyone to wear purple on Saturdays and pressure the HELL out of the senate and congress to get it to pass, but those representatives must represent the will of the people in their states, not the President. Pleasing the President and pissing off the people does NOT get you re-elected.

You can't blame a figurehead for laws being passed. If you want change, vote locally and write to your senators. You've come off as generally reasonable thus far, man- don't blow it by calling logic flaws when the flaw is in the understanding of how our government functions.

You can of course reply with "all of government is corrupt", but that doesn't help the situation. If you don't like the laws vote for someone who writes the laws, not the figurehead who just signs off on them.

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leejo

More disinformation from the Kerry campaign, et. al.

The Globe and Kerry campaign are claiming that Drudge got the story wrong, that there is no involvement between Michael Kranish, the Globe reporter who wrote the article claiming that one of the swiftvets had retracted his story, and the Kerry-Edwards campaign book. See the Globe article here

A google search on "Kranish Kerry Edwards" sends you to this page:

http://www.publicaffairsbooks.com/pu...ook=1586483145

Which makes no mention of Kranish.

But the cached page that google posts sends you here:

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache...+edwards&hl=en

What a tangled web....

NewsWrthy

wow Kerry the real American ate at Wendys. yea right! bet he tries that again. I think the fact that he tells every one that they eat there all the time is wonderful, but stop in and check the menu first Mrs. Kerry didn't even know what chilli was lol. The Marines eating lunch there were bush supporters and didn't want to be bothered during lunch. so in true Kerry Fashion he heads back to the bus for a luch fit for a man of his stature. check the story out
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m.../ixportal.html

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Wolfie

Rumor is that he is a Senator...

CingularDuality

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phyllis

OUCH! for John !

I wonder if there will be a push now to get him to release his service records ? Looks like Johnny boy mighta got in a bit deep now....

...anyone read, or know someone that's read the book ?

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DeRanger

Then, of course, there's these...

***EDIT: The first one has foul language and isn't work-safe.***

http://ericblumrich.com/idiot.html

http://www.ericblumrich.com/buddy.html

Benny_

Just an open question,

Does anyone actually care if your president to be, whether it be Kerry or the other fella , actually went to Vietnam?

Isn't it more abuot policy now? Or does Vietnam and serving records hold a lot? I know GWB's record has been brought up, but in all seriousness does it affect how you vote?

CingularDuality

Those are both lame and off-topic.

This one is appropriate here, though:

http://www.ericblumrich.com/topgun.html

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