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Old 10-05-2006, 12:41 AM   #46 (permalink)
 
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...q=apache+video

A longer version of the video. Guide pole thingy my ass.
Wow, seriously. I'm glad I got a chance to look back at the original video. They obviously completely ripped out the most damning parts and lengthened or froze the innocent parts.

Rod-shaped object... lol

These guys are clearly plowing the field at dusk. Although nobody is ever seen in the tractor, and there are two trucks in addition to the tractor.

What better place to put your "marker" than right on the ground in front of your tractor. That way, you can find your way to the marker and run it over. I suppose that big truck must be full of markers so that they can keep putting down new ones and running them over.

Alright... I'm peeved now. The way the NEW video is edited is really sickening no matter how you slice it.

(lol sorry... I watched it again and there is a 3rd guy who drives up in the tractor, apparently on his way to run over the rod-shaped object)
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:55 AM   #47 (permalink)
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So you claim to know farmers? You have worked with them and experienced their desire to get the job done?

I am not saying they would continue working while bullets zinged by (although some I have known probably would). But a war in the general area probably would not stop them. And I concede that some, maybe even many, farmers would stop their work if war where to break out on their land.

And again this specific instance may very well be as you perceive it. But it does not generalize every instance. In either way.

But this is a region that is always in a state of emergency. I could see, based on my experience, a person out in the fields working ignoring the threats of people with guns.

Human dignity has, more than once, lead individuals to flip the bird to superior forces and die, however unjustly, because of it.

You seem to deride what you do not know, only accepting the view you understand. Why?

This evidence you speak of. What is it? I only know what I have experienced and I have experienced the situations described in my previous post. Admittedly I thought the people I worked with crazy. When I see a tornado I want to run. But at the time I was told "it is at least a half mile away and probably not coming this way". Or when the hail started falling they just cringed and kept on going.

Also, I think you do not understand my position.
That's kind of absurd. War isn't comparable to bad weather because nothing about bad weather is actively trying to kill you. An Apache 1/2 mile away may spot you and try to kill you but a tornado is never going to do that. Farmers just don't farm in a war zone and there's historical evidence to back that up. When a war comes everyone, regardless of occupation, gets a rifle or gets out of the way.

That's all I have to say on that subject. It's not relevant unless someone can confirm the existence of guiding poles.
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Cool, I want an Apache!
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Old 10-05-2006, 08:26 AM   #49 (permalink)
 
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So you claim to know farmers? You have worked with them and experienced their desire to get the job done?
Yeah dude, I call one Papa. He's my grandfather, and I've known him all my life. I worked on his farm 5 summers as a kid and a teenager. I drove an IH 756 cultivating soybeans. I've worked with him putting soybean, cotton, corn, wheat, and tobacco in the fields, spraying all for insects, cultivating, suckering the tobacco, and harvesting.

My other grandfather owned and ran a Farm Implement store, serving farmers.

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