Return of the Taliban

AMosely · 10-04-2006, 11:28 AM

Frontline does it again. I watched this new documentary last night and thought it was fantastic. The website alone is full of a wealth of material. Pakistan is not containing the tribal areas along its northern borders - Afghanistan is doing even less. Is the U.S. trying too hard in Iraq and not hard enough in Afghanistan? Will Al Qaeda rebuild itself under re-gained Taliban territory? Will the U.S. have to battle for Kabul all over again?

If you are at all interested in what is currently happening in Afghanistan, Pakistan and the mountains beteween, you need to check this out.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/taliban/

Beatnik · 10-04-2006, 03:00 PM

I caught the last 15 or 20 minutes. Scary stuff.

And that lovely scene with Bush and Musharraf was priceless.

**Trooper** · 10-04-2006, 03:32 PM

I seen on CNN a new analyis say the US needs to get the Taliban involved in the politics of that country. Give them some sort of role in the new goverment and hope they dont take it over again. Im not sure i totally agree with that idea, and why would he even bring it up

Steeler · 10-04-2006, 03:50 PM

Because that is Musharraf's strategy in Pakistan. It's also something that Bill Frist has said we should do in Afghanistan (ignoring for a moment that 2 months ago he would have described such a proposal as surrender).

xTYBALTx · 10-04-2006, 04:08 PM

The Taliban have existed in Afghanistan for a long time and will persist under one moniker or another. Allowing them into the government may help highlight those whom wish to destroy it. Or in a best case scenario, their newly refound legitimacy may cut the violent members out of the loop.

No way to know for sure what will happen, but I could see good reasons to let them back in to the government. The Taliban were not unti recently a political force, and need not be inherently anti-American.

**Faultline** · 10-04-2006, 04:52 PM

I was trying to watch this last night but my audio for PBS wasn't picking up. I'm going to try and find it again and record it.

Rick_the_new_guy · 10-04-2006, 09:25 PM

Awh man, I missed it. I rekon I'll order it. Got to support the team.

I bought Rumsfield's war a couple of years ago, and it rocked.

Thanks for reminding me.

AMosely · 10-05-2006, 01:58 PM

Anyone who missed it will be able to view it online, probably starting next week (they tend to delay this after the TV release by about a week).

In case you don't know, there is a veritable vault of these documentaries available at the Frontline website (http://www.pbs.org/frontline)

Rick_the_new_guy · 10-05-2006, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMosely

Anyone who missed it will be able to view it online, probably starting next week (they tend to delay this after the TV release by about a week).

In case you don't know, there is a veritable vault of these documentaries available at the Frontline website (http://www.pbs.org/frontline)

By the true gods!!

The website is very impressive.

It even has a detailed map with intell on the locations on the border of the two nations.

**Faultline** · 10-05-2006, 05:35 PM

I think it is replaying this Saturday night at 9:00 or 10:00 PM EST for anyone that missed it. I have it set to record.

**Faultline** · 10-09-2006, 06:16 PM

Finally watched this and it was indeed an insightful look into Pakistan, the Taliban and surrounding tribal areas bordering Afghanistan.

Musharraf is really in a no win situation it would seem.

**Grunt 70** · 10-09-2006, 06:20 PM

Love tivo...or digital recording ...whatever you want to call it. I've got my machine programmed to record Frontline and Nova. Basically the only two shows I watch with any kind of consistency.

Thought it was an insightful piece. Not really any surprises I must say. We're in it so deep for so long...man I wonder how we will ever get ourselves out of this mess.

Can't believe the number of people who just roll right along agreeing we are in an war without end...the morass of afghanistan, which is really just the tip of the iceberg...almost makes me think they are right.

10-04-2006, 11:28 AM	#1 (permalink)
AMosely Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Maine Age: 33 Posts: 2,536	Return of the Taliban Frontline does it again. I watched this new documentary last night and thought it was fantastic. The website alone is full of a wealth of material. Pakistan is not containing the tribal areas along its northern borders - Afghanistan is doing even less. Is the U.S. trying too hard in Iraq and not hard enough in Afghanistan? Will Al Qaeda rebuild itself under re-gained Taliban territory? Will the U.S. have to battle for Kabul all over again? If you are at all interested in what is currently happening in Afghanistan, Pakistan and the mountains beteween, you need to check this out. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/taliban/

10-04-2006, 03:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
Beatnik Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Austin, TX Age: 33 Posts: 4,312	Re: Return of the Taliban I caught the last 15 or 20 minutes. Scary stuff. And that lovely scene with Bush and Musharraf was priceless. __________________ -F- Beatnik

10-04-2006, 03:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
Trooper Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In my wifes house......if she says i can Age: 25 Posts: 8,559	Re: Return of the Taliban I seen on CNN a new analyis say the US needs to get the Taliban involved in the politics of that country. Give them some sort of role in the new goverment and hope they dont take it over again. Im not sure i totally agree with that idea, and why would he even bring it up __________________ that sounds like a good idea trooper. -Vulcan

10-04-2006, 03:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
Steeler Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Taxachusetts Age: 30 Posts: 2,925	Re: Return of the Taliban Because that is Musharraf's strategy in Pakistan. It's also something that Bill Frist has said we should do in Afghanistan (ignoring for a moment that 2 months ago he would have described such a proposal as surrender). __________________

10-04-2006, 04:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
xTYBALTx Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,762	Re: Return of the Taliban The Taliban have existed in Afghanistan for a long time and will persist under one moniker or another. Allowing them into the government may help highlight those whom wish to destroy it. Or in a best case scenario, their newly refound legitimacy may cut the violent members out of the loop. No way to know for sure what will happen, but I could see good reasons to let them back in to the government. The Taliban were not unti recently a political force, and need not be inherently anti-American. __________________ Current good song: Justice - Stress "$250,000 a year won't get me to Central Park West."

10-04-2006, 04:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
Faultline Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tennessee Age: 29 Posts: 1,559	Re: Return of the Taliban I was trying to watch this last night but my audio for PBS wasn't picking up. I'm going to try and find it again and record it. __________________

10-04-2006, 09:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
Rick_the_new_guy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 29 Posts: 1,789	Re: Return of the Taliban Awh man, I missed it. I rekon I'll order it. Got to support the team. I bought Rumsfield's war a couple of years ago, and it rocked. Thanks for reminding me. __________________ (PO3) Marcinko_R. (BF2 PR .509) Squad Member (CPO) Marcinko_R. (BF2 PR .509) Squad Leader (LCDR) Marcinko_R. (BF2 PR .509) Commander Squad Member pledge to their SL:http://www.tacticalgamer.com/battlef...ad-leader.html Squad Leader pledge to their team:http://www.tacticalgamer.com/battlef...r-platoon.html Commander pledge to their SL:http://www.tacticalgamer.com/battlef...d-leaders.html

10-05-2006, 01:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
AMosely Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Maine Age: 33 Posts: 2,536	Re: Return of the Taliban Anyone who missed it will be able to view it online, probably starting next week (they tend to delay this after the TV release by about a week). In case you don't know, there is a veritable vault of these documentaries available at the Frontline website (http://www.pbs.org/frontline)

10-05-2006, 05:35 PM	#10 (permalink)
Faultline Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tennessee Age: 29 Posts: 1,559	Re: Return of the Taliban I think it is replaying this Saturday night at 9:00 or 10:00 PM EST for anyone that missed it. I have it set to record. __________________

10-09-2006, 06:16 PM	#11 (permalink)
Faultline Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tennessee Age: 29 Posts: 1,559	Re: Return of the Taliban Finally watched this and it was indeed an insightful look into Pakistan, the Taliban and surrounding tribal areas bordering Afghanistan. Musharraf is really in a no win situation it would seem. __________________

10-09-2006, 06:20 PM	#12 (permalink)
Grunt 70 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Massachusetts Age: 43 Posts: 2,416	Re: Return of the Taliban Love tivo...or digital recording ...whatever you want to call it. I've got my machine programmed to record Frontline and Nova. Basically the only two shows I watch with any kind of consistency. Thought it was an insightful piece. Not really any surprises I must say. We're in it so deep for so long...man I wonder how we will ever get ourselves out of this mess. Can't believe the number of people who just roll right along agreeing we are in an war without end...the morass of afghanistan, which is really just the tip of the iceberg...almost makes me think they are right. __________________ \|TG-22nd\|Grunt "When force is necessary, it must be applied boldly, decisively, and completely. But one must know the limitations of force; one must know when to blend force with maneuver" - Leon Trotsky

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