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Old 10-06-2006, 03:10 PM   #16 (permalink)
 
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While I disagree with the Amish when they teach their children that this man who did this to them wasn't evil (his actions clearly show he was evil, IMO), I laud and applaud their almost immediate forgiveness of this man and their extending their grief and mourning to his family. THAT is Christian love being lived out for you right there. They accept God as being God, recognize His sovereignty and let Him be the judge and do what they're commanded to do, which is to forgive...<snip>The Amish have it dead on CORRECT in how they are dealing with this: with graciousness, forgiveness, mercy, and love.

That should tell you which one gives the truest representation of what we Christians claim to be truth.
I completely agree. I honor these people. I disagree with their interpretation of God's will for them in many ways; their decision to eschew certain technology baffles me. There is so much about their lifestyle that manifests Grace.

I'm seeing today that two more of these girls are likely to die. I cannot help but look at this man's life, which by all accounts was nearly completely at odds with his last acts, and wonder what happened. It's almost as if a demon posessed him.

I know how wacky that sounds. But this story is pretty wacky. What makes a good husband and father decide one day to drop his children off, then go do this? Considering what he apparently intended, Mercy wasn't completetly absent from that school house.

I was inspired to see that one family had invited the shooter's widow to their daughter's funeral, and happy to see that she accepted.

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Old 10-06-2006, 08:28 PM   #17 (permalink)
 
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It's almost as if a demon posessed him.
Actually, that's my best guess as to why he snapped.

And you know, I bet that those people with multiple personality disorders or those that "hear voices" may not be totally "sick" as we figure, but instead be demon possessed as well to some extent. Which makes total sense as to why the secular world totally doesn't believe at all in this: Satan has blinded them to his activities and found them a false scape goat.
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Old 10-06-2006, 09:43 PM   #18 (permalink)
 
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That's my wife's reaction too, and, well, she's always right.
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PHILADELPHIA, Pennsylvania (Reuters) -- One of the girls who died in Pennsylvania's Amish schoolhouse massacre asked the killer to shoot her first in an apparent bid to save the younger girls, a woman who spoke to the victim's family said Friday.

Rita Rhoads, a nurse-midwife who delivered 13-year-old Marian Fisher as well as another victim, said Fisher appealed to Charles Carl Roberts IV to shoot her first because she thought it might allow younger girls to survive.

Rhoads said she did not know whether Fisher in fact was shot first. Roberts shot 10 girls ages 6 to 13, killing five of them and then himself in Monday's rampage. (Watch "shocked and sad" Amish express forgiveness -- 2:46)

Fisher's 11-year-old sister, Barbie, appealed to Roberts to shoot her next, Rhoads said. Barbie survived and was in Children's Hospital of Philadelphia recovering from shoulder, hand and leg injuries.

"Barbie has been talking and she said Marian said, 'Shoot me first,"' Rhoads said. "Apparently what she was trying to do was to save the younger girls."

Barbie, who attended her sister's funeral Thursday before returning to the hospital, gave details of her ordeal to relatives including her grandfather, who told Rhoads, the midwife said in a telephone interview.

"It was very courageous of the girls to offer themselves," Rhoads said. "God was really present to give the girls that kind of courage."

Pennsylvania state police were not immediately available for comment.

Roberts, 32, a local non-Amish milk truck driver, attacked the one-room schoolhouse at Nickel Mines, a farming community in Lancaster County about 60 miles west of Philadelphia.

He allowed boys and adults to leave and then tied the legs of the girls before shooting them, police said.

Four of the girls including Marian Fisher were buried Thursday and a fifth funeral was being buried Friday.

The Amish, descendants of Swiss-German settlers, are a traditionalist Christian denomination who place particular importance on the Gospel message of forgiveness. They believe in nonviolence, simple living and little contact with the modern world.

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God bless them for that. I am not so capable. I hope this bastard is screaming in agony as a thousand demons feast on his soul for the rest of eternity. He died too well, you see. He does not deserve their forgiveness. But they will give it. God bless them all.
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No, he doesn't deserve their forgiveness, but that's not why they forgave him. They forgave him b/c God commands us to forgive our enemies.

THey say he wasn't evil, but he was and his actions showed it. I'm pretty sure he wasn't saved (thus him suffering in Hell is where he'd be), but I'm not the judge of that. I'm saddened that the man didn't know Christ, actually. I think he deserves our pity more than our hate. Why hate him? He's dead now, and most likely condemned to a place more terrible than we can ever imagine.
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