jex

Yeah and so what?

In a democracy, I can be a nazi if I want - that's what democracy stands for. So basically your saying that the mob controls and if you're not with the mob, your out. Because you dare to have a different opinion from the majority you should be singled out? That's called being a fascist.

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jex

It's the reason for appraoching them which is at concern here - and implied threats. It doesn't matter that "no interviews where conducted", the point is that these people were singled out because they were suspected of protesting.

Since when is that a crime and since when did that mean having police officers come round to your door?

Police talk to people to investigate crimes, or possible crimes. No links to crime where reported as far as I can see, so why are the police hounding and singling out these people?

Or more simply put - Why were these people singled out?

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CingularDuality

Because more and more protests are turning violent? Especially by groups like these? They were not "suspected of protesting", they were KNOWN protestors suspected of plotting criminal activity.

Your questions seem to be idealistic and rhetorical. You know why they were singled out and you're unwilling to admit that it's a good idea to remind these thugs that they're being watched. There's nothing illegal or immoral about having the police watch people who are suspected to be planning criminal activity. There's also nothing illegal or immoral about having the police try to interview these people. It's their job...

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TheFeniX

You just pigeon-holed an entire subsect of American politics as "Un-American" and I called you on it to provide at least one shred of evidence that it's true. And that raises your blood pressure?

It's not like I'm just hammering away at you for grins. Most of the times I "lay into someone" is when they make an arguement based on some belief they have and try and pass it off as fact. That's part of debating.

If I made an off-hand comment like "All Christians are bad people" I'd damn sure expect someone to call me on it. But then again, I never like dealing in absolutes.

Edit: I missed this:What if it was the Christian bible they were flushing?

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Actually, the judiciary is increasingly politicized to the right, so how exactly is the ACLU getting their agenda across? They only win on things that are bedrock, fundamental American rights, that the court has to uphold if the Constitution means anything.

I don't get this. Did you ever read a definition of communism? Take what you need/produce what you can is capitalist not communist. Communism is about the equitiable distribution of a society's wealth via redistribution, an effect which we achieve through taxation. I don't see any great agenda there.

Says the right leaning propaganists. America is at its best when ideas of equality are upheld. As for activist judges, there are laws that have to be upheld, whether the right likes them or not. If judges are acting in an activist fashion, then the decisions will be overturned on appeal. Funny how few cases get overturned on appeal when the ACLU is involved. It's not from activism: it's the Constitution. If the right wasn't so busy using it as toilet paper, maybe they might actually read it sometime.

I'm a Democrat. I'm not a communist any more than you are some inbred, knuckle dragging redneck. Name calling sucks, doesn't it?

To the point: democrats uphold, as a party, the idea that the proper role for government is not to stifle economic growth, but to ensure that continued progress does not leave a vast gender or racial underclass. It's closer to socialism, I suppose, but it's not communism.

Legal equality is not meritocracy. Equality under law is what we are trying to achieve, that's the ideal. That means color/relision/gender/sexual blindness in both the execution, and the legislation of laws. Maybe that's a threat to "right thinking" individuals, but that is the true promise of our founding fathers. To deny that, is to deny America.