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Old 01-28-2007, 06:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Attention blindness - I didn't see it

this ones great

I didn't see it !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UxzxfYT9q8&eurl=
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Old 01-28-2007, 06:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Re: Attention blindness - I didn't see it

i did.... are you serious you didnt see it and i swear on my life i saw it....
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Old 01-28-2007, 07:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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Re: Attention blindness - I didn't see it

That was awesome! I was so focused on the students in the white shirts that I totally didn't see the ape at all.

I suspect the results would have been different if the non-expected information (the guy in the ape suit) was closer to the information receiving the focus. By this, I mean if the viewer were instructed to count the passes made by the black shirted students instead.

I suppose this video reinforces (for me) the need to remember to see the same information from different perspectives, and to be courteous with others who see it differently - neither in a discussion will have all the answers, but it is better to stay focused on the answer instead of the invective.

I became a little curious on the fellow giving the talk, and attention blindness, and found these links for anyone who is interested.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inattentional_blindness
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Shermer

And a longer version of the same talk (although it doesn't appear to be the same event):
http://www.ted.com/tedtalks/tedtalks...flashEnabled=1

This last link has a song at the end which I thought was great.
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Old 01-28-2007, 07:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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Re: Attention blindness - I didn't see it

I saw the ape man, but to be truthful I believe I saw the clip along time ago. I believe I missed it then

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Old 01-28-2007, 08:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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Re: Attention blindness - I didn't see it

definitely saw the gorilla first time through.
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Old 01-28-2007, 08:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
 
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Ya, I remember this clip from a couple years ago, albeit with a different presenter. I originally saw it as part of a program about how things are designed for us to see or not see certain aspects (and how we are conditioned to see them) and how businesses use it when marketing or designing things, such as the arrow in the FedEx logo (between the E and the x) denoting speed subconsiously, so we naturally want to use FedEx.... or some crap like that.

And yes, I saw the ape the first time as well. I'm an inspector, I seem to have this natural affinity to find things that aren't right or don't belong.
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Re: Attention blindness - I didn't see it

That was amazing. I'm somewhat embarrassed that I missed it the first time.
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That was amazing. I'm somewhat embarrassed that I missed it the first time.
I got 17, and noticed a 4th black(shirted) player move through the pack. I did not, however, notice that it was a GORILLA.
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Old 01-28-2007, 11:54 PM   #9 (permalink)
 
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Re: Attention blindness - I didn't see it

Interesting. I picked up the ape dude right away, but I think the experiment was spoiled for me by "I didn't see it".
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That was amazing. I'm somewhat embarrassed that I missed it the first time.
Heh heh...yeah, me too. I almost couldn't believe that it was the same clip.
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Re: Attention blindness - I didn't see it

This is actually a very interesting subject to bring up in a games forum. As Diceman says, it's important not to draw disparaging distinctions between those who saw it and those who didn't. I have to say that as soon as the gorilla entered from the right, my eyes were drawn to it. I also counted 17.

Now, what interests me is the background of the people who saw it and those who didn't. I want to read more about the studies, but I played a lot of team sport (and still do) and I wonder whether this training benefits people in making heavier use of their peripheral vision. Picking up that guy who's flanking you, body language, slight movements that give away intentions. Same goes for FPS games. Shooting at one target, while observing your HUD and map details to keep in tune with the sequence of your actions and reactions.

Very interesting to hear from the people who picked it as to whether there's a pattern there. Whether this is trained or inherent.
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Re: Attention blindness - I didn't see it

I'm a film student currently, and one of the interesting things about studying film in a large lecture hall is the amount of background detail missed by the students - there are lots of seemingly glaring details that go unnoticed by the majority of people watching the film, including things like words spraypainted on city walls behind major characters and lone characters standing dejected behind a major dance sequence in a musical. Most people have a hard time seeing the big picture when faced with a specific thing that's calling their attention.
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Re: Attention blindness - I didn't see it

I got bored and stopped counting, and I did notice the gorilla immediately. I vaguely remember seeing this video before though, so that doesn't count.
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I got bored and stopped counting, and I did notice the gorilla immediately.
1...2... I wonder what's on tv! Hey, a guy in an ape suit! I'm hungry! I'm gonna go ride my bike!
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